Holiday Conventions

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  • RR
    RR

    Is this something new? Scheduling conventions around the holiday season?

    December 22, 2007

    Holiday prime time for Witnesses' assembly

    By JIM HAUG
    Staff Writer

    DAYTONA BEACH -- Organizing a convention the weekend before Christmas might seem like terrible timing, particularly among Christians.

    But not for Jehovah's Witnesses, who don't celebrate Christmas and expect more than 1,200 participants today and Sunday when they host an assembly for Spanish-speaking congregations from across Central Florida.

    "When we set up our calendar for our conventions or assemblies, we don't mark off any holidays, period," said J.R. Brown, a national spokesman for the Witnesses. "We only observe one, and that's the memorial of Christ's death (in the spring)."

    The Jehovah's Witnesses have several reasons for not celebrating Christmas, he said. Scripture does not mandate it. While they believe Christ was God's son sent to Earth to redeem mankind, they don't believe Christ was God incarnate or a part of a godhead or trinity.

    From a close reading of the Bible, Jehovah's Witnesses doubt that Christ was born in December anyway.

    "Shepherds were sleeping in the fields with their flock (at the time of Christ's birth)," Brown noted. "You wouldn't do that in winter."

    The sect believes Dec. 25 was chosen by the Romans to coincide with pagan holidays and the celebration of the winter solstice.

    Michael Gilmour, a theology professor from Canada who has written about the denomination, said Jehovah's Witnesses also like to distance themselves from Christmas because of the holiday's "materialism and excess," Gilmour said.

    Rodney Stark, a sociology professor at Baylor University in Texas, doesn't believe all Jehovah's Witnesses are so literal about not celebrating during the holiday season.

    "They wink and tell each other, 'Happy New Year,' " Stark said. "We overestimate the authority of the church. They're smart not to crack down."

    The public is welcome to attend the meeting at the Assembly Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses on Tomoka Farms Road, but all sessions are in Spanish. Hernando Gomez, a local spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses, said the assembly is just a regular meeting scheduled twice a year.

    Incidentally, "Jehovia" is the Spanish translation for Jehovah, or their name for God, according to the Jehovah's Witnesses edition of the Spanish Bible.

    jim.haug@news-jrnl.com

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  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    It is nothing new. WTS has always scheduled things as if there were no holidays.

    There are Special Assembly days, Circuit Assemblies, District Conventions, C.O. visits
    scheduled during holidays.

    They make a special effort to deliberately schedule elder's schools during holidays so
    they can attend.

    Remember that anything WT-related is more important than time-off and spending it with
    family. If you didn't have some theocratic activity for the holiday, you should go out in
    field circus and interupt others' time-off with family by selling them magazines.

  • MissingLink
    MissingLink

    Doesn't really make sense though becuase JWs are usually the ones left holding down the fort at the office while all the "wordly" ™ ones are having their pegan celebrations.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Rodney Stark, a sociology professor at Baylor University in Texas, doesn't believe all Jehovah's Witnesses are so literal about not celebrating during the holiday season.

    "They wink and tell each other, 'Happy New Year,' " Stark said. "We overestimate the authority of the church. They're smart not to crack down."

    Interesting comment by Rodney Stark considering these comments:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/33196/1.ashx/Rodney+Stark's+paper+on+JW+growth

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/28086/1.ashx/Rodney+Stark

    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:5-b4Rrh4uCkJ:www.geocities.com/rogueactivex/JWGrow-O.pdf+%22RODNEY+STARK%22+WATCHTOWER&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=19&gl=us

  • RR
    RR

    I don't ever remember attending assemblies during the holidays. I do remember going on in service during Christmas and New Years day.

    RR

  • blondie
    blondie

    In recent years, the WTS has scheduled MS and elder schools during Thanksgiving and Christmas. I can remember one during Thanksgiving, the traditional hunting season, and many elders were gone on their annual hunting trek. The CO ranted about that during the special needs talk for the circuit. I can remember one Christmas there was a big snow/sleet storm at the end of the CA and jws were going to have to stay overnight at the facility. Not a good plan. They should have let the crowd leave earlier in the day when the weather had been predicted to be bad rather than be bloodguilty when some tried to drive home.

    Blondie (glad she gets to stay home in the light of the fireplace)

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    Funny things is I know many JWs who secretly celebrate the holidays. Maybe they don't put up a chirstmas tree and lights but they exchange gifts, have families over and Turkey dinner. I know of several who buy their disfellowshipped adult children gifts for the holidays and gifts to their children. They even celebrate birthday's.

    Now speaking for myself, I always secretly celebrated the holidays I had my family over and we had Christmas turkey and the trimmings and they all diluted themselves into believing I was doing this as it was the only time kids were out of school and stores were closed and families got together. I gave my son gifts oh maybe not christmas day but certainly the day before or after. I just bet you a dime to a dollar a lot of witnesses secretly do this.

    I am sure that had they really looked at how I prepared my feast they probably knew I was teetering on celebrating Christmas. Its amazing how they can put on temporary blinders.

    Yet they profess wholeheartedly they are Jehovah's Witnesses and do every thing moma tells them to do .

    Go figure..

  • yknot
    yknot

    Just a thought......

    The holiday season can see a slow down for some covention centers, so they discount.

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    That is nothing new. They always have Grand Boasting Sessions around the Fourth of July week. And, they have had the hounder-hounder visit on Christmas and the Fourth of July (not necessarily the same year) at my former congregation.

    I guess that stops the witlesses from celebrating Christmas. They are supposed to be at the Big Boasting Session or helping the hounder-hounder instead of getting together with friends and family during the holidays. Of course that is not going to stop me, since (1) I had my Christmas tree up since Labor Day and (2) I am going to blow off both the Big Boasting Session and the hounder-hounder visits.

  • mentalclearness
    mentalclearness

    We always have turkey dinner around christmas because of the days off. All of my family get together. Which is a pretty big bunch. But it never bothered anyone. In fact I think that's quite common among jw's.

    About the conventions during christmas and new years.. OMG in my congregation there was never a free holiday. We always got either an assembly or a co's visit on those days off so you could never plan a trip or anything.....seriously. this happened like 5 years in a row!!!!

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