Thanks a bunch!
A Holiday Gift to JWD, from Scully & Friends
by Scully 50 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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kifoy
Thank you, Scully and friends!
I've had a glimpse of some of these before, when my father was preparing his public talks, but never got any closer look at all of them.
And I've never seen the funeral, wedding and memorial outlines.
I of course needed to take a look at the wedding outline. OMG. I'm so happy I did not marry in a KH! For example:
A HUSBAND WHO GAINS DEEP RESPECT (fZ pp. 40-53) (17 min)
A WIFE WHO IS DEARLY LOVED (fZ pp. 54-69) (6 min.)
Yes, that would put the priorities where they should be
Again, thank you.
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Scully
Regarding the "phasing out" comments, I think it's especially important to have those outlines for posterity.
We all know the WTS is an expert at sanitizing its past and having the audacity to proclaim that "we never said/believed" such-and-such, when in fact they did exactly that.
In Volume 1 there are two versions of the same talk outline - same title Family Life that Warms the Heart, but there is a 1991 edition and a 2005 edition. See if you can spot the edit.
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Satanus
I called for these outlines several yrs ago. Very important contribution. Thanks.
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Burger Time
If anyone wants to share things, I have a premium rapidshare account which moves much faster then this and keeps files longer (I believe)
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stillajwexelder
Thank You Mam
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Scully
BurgerTime:
If anyone wants to share things, I have a premium rapidshare account which moves much faster then this and keeps files longer (I believe)
Feel free to create new links and share the love!
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wanderlustguy
thank you thank you thank you!
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Gretchen956
Ok, I have to ask (silly me)... what will anyone use these for? They were mindnumbingly boring trite BS when I heard them. Can't imagine what they are useful for except to put people to sleep or make people squirm.
But obviously you all must find them good for something and I recognize the huge amount of work this represents. Thanks for that, and I'm sure as soon as I know what they are good for I'll even be more thankful, lol!
Sherry
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Scully
Hi Gretchen
what will anyone use these for? They were mindnumbingly boring trite BS when I heard them. Can't imagine what they are useful for except to put people to sleep or make people squirm.
In view of the upcoming change to a 30-minute Public Talk, the best way I have to answer this is to take a passage from George Orwell's 1984:
He [Winston Smith] wondered, as he had many times wondered before whether he himself was a lunatic. Perhaps a lunatic was simply a minority of one. At one time it had been a sign of madness to believe that the earth goes round the sun: today, to believe that the past was unalterable. He might be alone in holding that belief, and if alone, then a lunatic. But the thought of being a lunatic did not greatly trouble him: the horror was that he might also be wrong.
He picked up the children's history book and looked at the portrait of Big Brother which formed its frontispiece. The hypnotic eyes gazed into his own. It was as though some huge force were pressing down upon you -- something that had penetrated inside your skull, battering against your brain, frightening you out of your beliefs, persuading you, almost, to deny the evidence of your senses. In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable -- what then?
But no! His courage seemed suddenly to stiffen of its own accord. The face of O'Brien, not called up by any obvious association, had floated into his mind. He knew, with more certainty than before, that O'Brien was on his side. He was writing his diary for O'Brien - to O'Brien: it was like an interminable letter which no one would ever read, but which was addressed to a particular person and took its colour from that fact.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right. The obvious, the silly and the true had got to be defended. Truisms are true, hold on to that! The solid world exists, its laws do not change. Stones are hard, water is wet, objects unsupported fall towards the earth's centre. With the feeling that he was speaking to O'Brien, and also that he was setting forth an important axiom, he wrote:
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
If, for no other reason, these scans provide evidence of past teachings that will inevitably be denied by the WTS. That is what makes them important documents. They are evidence of erroneous teachings, of prejudices against women, of holding themselves up as the beacon of righteousness while at the same time slamming other religions for scandalous and criminal behaviour that was also taking place within the JW congregations on a massive scale. When these documents disappear, the WTS will have plausible deniability - they will announce "we never did that" or "we never taught that". This collection, in some small way, prevents them from being able to get away with those lies.