Changeling
Sounds true. I have not checked out the myersbriggs thing. I am very impressed w jung. Will check out humanmetrics.
The question i have is (not necessarily to you), is anybody born an asshole? Maybe serial killers? Or, is there some event/stresser that flips a switch in the susceptible to make them assholes? So many human screwups have fear as the basis. Overcome the fears and you get a better functioning person. Selfishness is necessary, to a point,and normal.
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Does your belief system make you nicer
by Satanus 24 Replies latest jw friends
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Satanus
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flipper
SATANUS- I think it is better to have a positive belief system from within yourself to help you get through life . I concur with Gopher's views that whether a believer in the Bible or an atheist , still you may have a good positive nature, or may have a bad one , could be traits learned from the environment a person was raised in, example: violent , abusive , or positive: kind, caring, good social skills ! I raised 3 kids into what I'd like to feel are respectable adults: good social skills, mature, reasonable, caring, kind people. And my son is certainly that way,( my 2 daughters under the cult influence of the witnesses are somewhat jaded in their social skills) . But, that's for another day .
Bottom line is I keep my same belief system and try to be kind, respect the dignity of all men and women and children , and it's just how I roll in nature. I feel I learned that respect from my parents and the loving environment I was raised in -
Odrade
I think that my current belief system doesn't necessarily make me nicer, but abandoning the JW beliefs definitely made me less "fake-nice." Now if you get "nice" from me, it's the real deal. :)
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daniel-p
What's a belief system? And do I have to have one?
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changeling
Satanus: I think we need to define "asshole". I also think it will be a subjective definition.
For me an asshole is someone who is consistently: arrogant, close minded, rude, controlling, has little or no concern for the wellfare of others...Some people may think such a person is a joy to be around, I beg to differ.
While we all have "asshole" moments from time to time, some people are stuck in that mode. And yes, I think it is from birth. I've been around enough children (having taught school) to say I've seen very young children who I just knew were "assholes in training". In running into them years later my theory has proven itself true.
changeling
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daniel-p
While we all have "asshole" moments from time to time, some people are stuck in that mode. And yes, I think it is from birth. I've been around enough children (having taught school) to say I've seen very young children who I just knew were "assholes in training". In running into them years later my theory has proven itself true.
While I agree with you to a degree, I would warn you to stay away from a devious thing called "social constructivism."
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changeling
Thank you daniel-p. I've not looked into this before, but your post urged me to look up some info on it.
Here's one site I found :http://projects.coe.uga.edu/epltt/index.php?title=Social_Constructivismhttp://projects.coe.uga.edu/epltt/index.php?title=Social_Constructivism.
Frankly, I don't think it sounds bad at all. You may feel it implys that our personalities are more maleable than Jung taught, but I don't think so. While Jung argues that the core personality is set, Piaget's suggesting that we learn "socially" does not alter this in the least.
changeling
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frankiespeakin
http://www.jaman.com/a/video/053D-TBecDDw/
Here's one beleif system that really works for this guy he getting lots bible studies and is realitively harmless I suppose, I don't know but he may have a masturbation problem he working on and getting under control. I'm sure he uses tissue and cleans up after a momentary laspes in pleasuring himself. I'm sure he's a real nice guy and just wants to spread Good News. I'd shake his hand, and wouldn't be afraid he'd pick my pockets or anything.
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daniel-p
Here's one beleif system that really works for this guy he getting lots bible studies and is realitively harmless I suppose, I don't know but he may have a masturbation problem he working on and getting under control. I'm sure he uses tissue and cleans up after a momentary laspes in pleasuring himself. I'm sure he's a real nice guy and just wants to spread Good News. I'd shake his hand, and wouldn't be afraid he'd pick my pockets or anything.
You have a nice way of lowering the standards of the discussions you contribute to.
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Maddie
Having a belief system doesn't necessarily make a person nice. I know non-religious people who are more compassionate and caring than some religious fanatics. Genuine love comes from within.
Maddie