do dubs who are disfellowshipped get a reserection or what ? (page 2)

freydi

NO, because the society denies the ransom. ITHO, their interpretations/rules have replaced it.

free2beme

No, they are eaten by birds and will be poked with many sticks as they lay roting on the surface of the earth. Look mom, this one is bloating!!!! Will be heard far and wide.

metaspy

In regards to DF'd - no resurrection.

In regards to suicide... well, that one is up in the air.
The borg has changed it view from "Not gonna happen" to "maybe if we like them" mentality.

jws teach that only those who have commited the unforgivable sin will not receive a ressurection...and they know that df-ing is seldom if ever for unforgivable sin..they also know that plenty of 'innocent' people are df-ed regularly although they choose to do nothing about this.

they believe that solomon will get a ressurection even tho they say of him that he died as an apostate.

suicide victims will also get a ressurection since this is recognized as an act of imperfection.(since some annointed started trying it)

the change in thinking a few years back with regard to the separating of sheep and goats allowed for the ressurection to apply to everyone who died prior to armageddon since if they were to have lived they may have changed so this would include df ones.

any jw who says differently is just not keeping up/reading between the lines/understanding the principle (but lets face it that would apply to most of them)

so in conclusion only 5 individuals will not get ressurected - adam, eve, judas (strange considering he didnt know what he was doing and he repented before dying), a nanias, and sapphira.(since they were supposed to go to heaven and the earthly hope is not a lesser one)

and of course those directly destroyed by jah at armageddon, the flood, and (at the moment) sodom and gommorah (although they are wrong about that and so that will change again in the near future)

FreudianSlip

Very interesting post tijkmo, I didn't know a lot of that stuff.

WTWizard

According to their doctrine (which is incorrect and may even be out of date), if you are disfellowshipped and die in that condition, there is no resurrection hope. If you get reinstated and then die, there is supposed to be a resurrection.

As for those who are disfellowshipped and on the way back, but not yet reinstated, they have that specious "It's up to Jehovah" reason. That also goes for those who are inactive and start going back to meetings just before they die. All of which is hogwash.

dogisgod

Doesn't the Bible say "The wages sin pays is death" Once you've died you've paid your debt. The WT just keeps adding "amendments" to the "constitution" legalistic as they are.

Must obey!

The Society DOES NOT officially teach that you won't get a resurrection if you die when disfellowshipped. The only exception is if you have committed the unforgiveable sin, and that area is so blurry and confusing in Watchtower theology that many JW's imagine that just the act of being disfellowshipped, especially for apostasy, is tantamount to having committed the unforgiveable sin, since you are only disfellowshipped if you are 'not repentant', which translates in the ignorant JW mind as 'wilful sinner hence unforgiveable sin'.

do dubs who are disfellowshipped get a reserection or what ?

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