NEW "annointed" since 1935 - hilarious!!!

by hamsterbait 15 Replies latest jw friends

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  hamsterbait

  I counted up the Deaths/ New partakers over the 71years 1936 to 2007.

  I assumed 70 as the average lifespan, which means we can reasonably expect a decline of 1.43% each year.

  Those dead: 14 707 New partakers: 52 312.

  Average deaths each year: 207. Average new partakers each year: 737.

  This gives a combined total of Memorial partakers between 1936 - 2007 of 66 839. According to the Witchtower of 1988 15/12 there were 27 006 partakers in 1936. Smell anything yet?

  1: Where those dying (3 figures) exceeded new partakers (2 or single figure) 16 years out of 71.

  2: At no point did the number of deaths in a year exceed 561.

  3: Lowest number of deaths 122 in 2003. Lowest number of new partakers 3 in 1988.

  4: Highest deaths 561 in 1938. Highest number of new partakers 10 677 in 1937

  5: Nine years where the new partakers are in four figures.

  6: Of the 43 years where both deaths and new partakers are three figures new partakers are higher in 21 years. The biggest difference being 1955 where there were 231 deaths to 813 new partakers.

  7: Wt own 1998 figure shows 8756 partakers, 1999 shows 8755. ONE died - yet in 1999 124 "got the call" and started taking the emblems!

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  The WT has all this information, so has to be deliberately deceitful.

  For details of how I arrived at the figures see my thread "144 000 blasted by the Math (WT lying again)" posted on January 1st.

  HB
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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  This is good, and very funny! Don't confuse them with your apostate/jedi logic (simple math)!!
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  Samuel Thorsen

  Interesting
  

  How do you figure out the number of deaths each year?
  I din't get it.

  However 66839 annointed i our time makes room for just 77161 annointed since the year 33 and up to our time. Not a lot.
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  hillbilly

  NEW LIGHT!

  the "annointed" will now be refered to as the PERPETUAL 8000.

  any questions?

  Thanks...WTBTS and the GB

  ~Hill
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  Liberty

  Like all Watch Tower math the "anointed" scheme just doesn't add up no matter how you slice it. Without any "apostate" knowledge or influence simple math proves that Watch Towerism is plainly false on many fronts. The 144,000 as a literal number would have been filled long ago considering three centuries of what even the Watch Tower admits was true Christianity before the establishment of an apostate Roman state church. Many of these early Christians were tortured to death for their faith making them prime candidates for being of the "anointed class". The Watch Tower further admits that "true Christians", though small in number, existed throughout the 15 centuries which followed until the resestablishment of "pure worship" by Russel in the late 1800's. Many of these too died horrible deaths as heritics and would have a percentage who were of the "anointed class" as well.

  Once Russel "restored" "true Christianity" all of his followers considered themselves worthy of the "heavenly hope" up until 1936. The WT Society made 1936 a cut off point precisley because the then membership was already exceeding 144,000 in number and needed an out to explain the growth beyond this point, hence the "earthly hope" class invented for the overflow. If the average "annointed" in 1936 was 30 years old (many were much older) then they would be 103 years old today or most likely long dead. Add to this all of the "anointed" since then and those still hovering at 8,000 or 9,000 at each memorial and you get a ridiculously large count which even if 50% were false would still exceed any reasonable estimates.

  The math involved in reaching the world's population now in the billions with the WT salvation message using just 7 or 8 million JWs before Armageddon doesn't add up either. In fact a new generation of people who will never be reached grows exponentially every year Jehoobie postpones Armageddon needlessly killing uncontacted millions who need never have been born. In short, according to the Watch Towers own salvation scheme Armageddon can never come since only a small percentage of the world's population can realistically be contacted at all. Numbers don't lie and you don't need "apostates" to do the math and we haven't even gotten to "Armageddon any day now for over 100 years" numbers games.
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  RunningMan

  One day at work, I had been doing some actuarial calculations. Later that evening, I was at the book study, and the subject of the remnant came up. I began musing that I wished I had sold those bastards life insurance. The residuals would be awesome. They just never died.

  Then it dawned on me, that something is wrong here. So, I pulled out the numbers of anointed over the years, and noticed that around 1970, the numbers started behaving abnormally. So, starting with 1970, I plugged the anointed number into an actuarial spreadsheet.

  As you can guess, the most important group in the history of the world is almost completely fake.

  I can post the table if you like.
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  Liberty

  I looked up the population for the Roman Empire at the same time as early Christianity and it was around 65,000,000. I took just .01 of population being Christian and got 650,000. I then used 10% (based on "real" anointed old faithfuls from my congregation in the early 1970's) and got 65,000 anointed. This is very conservative but still fills almost 1/2 the slots in just the very early years of Christianity.
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  hamsterbait

  Runningman you should post your figures. The numbers do start to become inconsistent form 1969 on.

  Using the actual figures for the memorial, and counting the exact differences in partakers from year to year, (not based on an EXPECTED deaths):

  In 16 of the years between 1969 and 2007 there were NO deaths and a big jump in partakers. often over consecutive years.

  HB
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  RunningMan

  Well, I hope this posts OK. I didn't update it for 2007 yet, but it doesn't really matter. It just keeps getting worse for them.

  I should mention, that in order for this to work, I needed a minimum age. So, I assumed that to be appointed to the most important job in the universe, a person would need to be at least as old as Jesus was when he was baptized.

  So, if the anointed were at least 30 years old in 1935, as of 2006, the number of anointed should be 64. That means that this group is 99.3% bogus.

  	******************Annointed in 1935 at age 30****************
  		Expected
  	Mortality	Ending	Actual
  	Rate	Quantity	Quantity	Variance	Age
  1970	0.015412	10368	10368	0	65
  1971	0.017104	10191	10526	335
  1972	0.018969	9997	10384	387
  1973	0.021033	9787	10350	563
  1974	0.023448	9558	10523	965
  1975	0.026292	9306	10723	1417	70
  1976	0.029504	9032	10550	1518
  1977	0.032869	8735	10187	1452
  1978	0.036301	8418	10080	1662
  1979	0.039927	8082	9762	1680
  1980	0.043839	7727	9727	2000	75
  1981	0.048238	7355	9564	2209
  1982	0.053347	6962	9601	2639
  1983	0.059034	6551	9529	2978
  1984	0.065154	6124	9292	3168
  1985	0.071758	5685	9081	3396	80
  1986	0.078649	5238	9051	3813
  1987	0.085814	4788	8808	4020
  1988	0.093327	4341	8685	4344
  1989	0.101309	3902	8734	4832
  1990	0.109641	3474	8869	5395	85
  1991	0.118392	3063	8850	5787
  1992	0.127583	2672	8683	6011
  1993	0.137356	2305	8693	6388
  1994	0.147801	1964	8617	6653
  1995	0.159015	1652	8645	6993	90
  1996	0.170841	1370	8657	7287
  1997	0.183379	1118	8795	7677
  1998	0.196694	898	8756	7858
  1999	0.211942	708	8755	8047
  2000	0.228647	546	8661	8115	95
  2001	0.246587	411	8730	8319
  2002	0.265270	302	8760	8458
  2003	0.285200	216	8565	8349
  2004	0.306902	150	8570	8420
  2005	0.330728	100	8524	8424	100
  2006	0.356908	64	8758	8694
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  civicsi00

  Those damn numbers don't make any damn sense. Can anyone explain why they're so inconsistent? They shut off the kingdom of heaven for 72 years, and there should only be replacements (according to the WT). Have they ever tried to explain the fluctuation in numbers? Or were they hoping nobody would notice?