No to beat the Un thing to death, but something stinks here....

by isnrblog 17 Replies latest jw friends

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  isnrblog

  I still can't understand what they would have to gain by being a UN NGO. Some say status and others say they could gain monitarily, things to be investigated. The staus and influence theory does make some sense. I am researching this.

  This leads to another question about monitary gain, Is someone or a small group actually making millions from the Witnesses? They have to have Billions on real estate alone, just in NYC. When you think about it, what expenses do they have? They pay the bethilites squat and have littel or no mortgages in their properties. In fact, they will give individual congregations loans to build halls. Are these underwritten by banks?

  Someone with the means should look into this an investigative reporter, or such. How are they doing since they switched to voluntary contributions at the door? As I recall, the congregation members ponied up for the literature. Whats happening now?
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  DT

  Keep asking questions. I don't think we have a satisfactory answer on the motives behind the UN controversy or what they are doing with all their money. We need to keep digging. It's easy to come up with wild conspiracy theories and easy to dismiss them. However ,it may turn out that the truth is something we would consider hard to believe now. I think we need to ask difficult questions, use a healthy measure of skepticism, but avoid being too dismissive of ideas that may seem implausible.
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  AK - Jeff

  Once someone said to me regarding decisions being made in a corporate boardroom about the company I was a manager in: "What they do in there might benefit you or me, as fallout. But be sure that what they do is done to benefit THEM, the corporate big shots."

  Same could be said about the WTS and the GB I am afraid.

  Jeff
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  Junction-Guy

  As it stands right now, we have no legal means to find out anything about their finances, other than general tax info. If it were only so easy to start an investigation. They will bleed the constitution dry in order to keep their religious priviledge.
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  edmond dantes

  I think it gave them a certain amount of credibility when they needed to extend their operations in awkward countrys'. It gave them a key and it got them results.

  This was a prime example of the Borg saying one thing and doing the opposite in order to gain more sales.I think you will find they have sat on other worldly committees. They just kept it quiet, they think the rank and file don't need to know about all the commercial aspects of running what amounts to a very large corporation.

  It's all a a big scam.
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  feenx

  I would tend to agree with Edmund Dantes. Having an NGO status helps to further open doors in other countries, further their influence with the law here in the U.S., gives them access to increased information and adds to their "ligitimacy" as far as the rest of the world is concerned. I would tend to think that it's a simple one reason answer as to how they benefit, and at the same time based on the information available I find it hard to believe it's part of some wild WTBS conspiracy to take over more assets. I certainly don't put anything past them, but so far there is nothing to indicate their motive was anything more than increased access to political world.
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  OnTheWayOut

  I think it gave them a certain amount of credibility when they needed to extend their operations in awkward countrys'. It gave them a key and it got them results.

  Yes, while no proof is to be found, it is highly theorized that NGO status and promotion of
  UN efforts and World Health Organization was an attempt to "normalize" Watchtower as it
  reached further into 3rd World countries.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are known to be a cult, so many nations would restrict them without
  a second thought. They make an attempt to be humanitarian and mainstream so they can
  plead a case with the legislature or judicial powers.

  While no proof is available, it seems to be the prevailing opinion of many.
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  tinker

  They did it because they could. They get a taste of being NYC Big Shots and could rationalize the 'library card' among themselves. Just as they make scriptures fit their doctine so they could say the UN as a higher authorityrity used by Jehovah.

  They care nothing for the flock and underestimated what could happen if it came out. So when it did they did what they always do, cover up, no comment, blame the flock, blame apostates, and absolutly take NO responsibility.
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  journey-on

  Whatever their reason for doing it was, the fact still remains: THEY WHORED AROUND WITH THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST.

  If I was still a JW and found out about this, I would be hearing the words "Get Out of Her My People" loud and clear by now.
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  uninformed

  on the way out wrote:

  Yes, while no proof is to be found, it is highly theorized that NGO status and promotion of
  UN efforts and World Health Organization was an attempt to "normalize" Watchtower as it
  reached further into 3rd World countries.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are known to be a cult, so many nations would restrict them without
  a second thought. They make an attempt to be humanitarian and mainstream so they can
  plead a case with the legislature or judicial powers.

  While no proof is available, it seems to be the prevailing opinion of many.

  I would like to add that the timing of them becoming NGO's would indicate to me that it had a lot to do with using the influence of the UN to get them into the countries that were behind the Iron Curtain.

  Those hopeless people over in those lands then could have a job selling Watchtowers and Awakes!

  That is why Bulgaria was such an important place to settle the blood and neutrality issues.

  Brant