Will Awareness & Understanding Eliminate War by Making it Unexceptable?

by frankiespeakin 15 Replies latest jw friends

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  frankiespeakin

  Will enough people eventually get it so that a real change occures in most governemnts or will it just keep going like it has been for a long time with wars being fought to gain control of weath and people,, and the whole human race gets wiped out?

  One of the first things that has to happen is that people need to be "enlightened", and I think most of us here already know that "corporate owned new media" has little to offer in that direction, many in this country, and many other countries have the internet in thier own homes and independant news sources at thier finger tips(isn't wikipedia great) and great search engines like Google and others, this has to be a gradually gaining momentem, source of enlightenment around the globe.You might even say the internet may be a source of medicine to combat this Ideological thought virus or as some like to use the term Memes(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meme) . Lets face it the internet if used wisely and even not so wisely is a great source for deprogramming both the bullshit feed to us by the WT but also government&corporation inspired propaganda.

  Anyway I think nobody could disagree, that when enough people become enlightened(a critical mass is reached) that war would end simply because the wrongness is so obvious. Since this group already exist and is growing we should see it in the making, and that it may have significant starts in formerly oppressed parts of the world in just the same way your body sends antibodies to the place most needed by mechanism(mysteriously to me).

  I have other thoughts on this subect but this is it for now, please chime in.
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  changeling

  Eventually, as in centuries from now, yes. Provided we don't blow ourselves to smitherines before then.

  changeling
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  Gopher

  It's very idealistic, and unlikely. Resources are finite, and people will always struggle for their share (or more) of those resources at a national or international level. To the winner of each battle or war goes the spoils, and peace will follow after a loser is declared.

  Also, as long as the world has conflicting major religious blocs that aim for their share (or more) of influence over the world's populations, people will have reasons from their particular deity or deities to fight for their brand of righteousness.
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  changeling

  Gopher: I think the world has to rise above religion and see it for the destructive force that it is before we reach a point were war is irrelevant. As I said before, I think this could happen, but it's way off in the future.

  changeling
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  frankiespeakin

  I tend to disagree about the religion idea. Take a look at ML King, Malcohm X, Ghandi,Mother Threasa, and the list go on and on, of many religious people, that were for equal rights and equal fair treament of all. So I see no need for religion to be eliminated. A change in awareness and understanding in order for it change the governments need not remove religion to bring an end to war.
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  VoidEater

  Just my chiming in: I think for religion to exist in a peaceful world, mankind must first put religion within a greater context. Religion must be subservient to something bigger. Whatever that bigger thing is, it would have to hold respect of the "other" and the desire for peace as more important than an individual's or group's sense of God's plan for them.

  I think it will be easier to hope for the eradication of religion. The most vocal religious in my small world can't comprehend their passion as subservient to anything else.

  Awareness - waking up - being conscious - seems important.

  I was watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the reamke with Donald Sutherland) and kept seeing the need to wake up and stay awake as a comment about not getting trapped in a religious trance.

  Understanding...helps. But I don't know that understanding is necessary, or always possible. Sometimes, like Nike commercials say, you have to Just Do It.
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  frankiespeakin

  Viod,

  I understand your points and think they make valid sense, I think eventually it would evovle to no centralized religious authority which would open the flood gates to more open mindedness.

  As reguard to my use of the term awareness&understanding I mean it like being aware there is a chair, butterfly, and candle in the room, but not understanding anything about it. Just like today people are aware of the fact you can't trust the government but how many understand what that awareness reveals.
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  moshe

  The Corporate powers that pull the strings behind the scenes are begining to realize that wars are just too expensive. Even all the smart weapons don't seem to stop roadside bombs and suicide bombers.
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  jaguarbass

  I thought war in the United States was how we thinned out our crop of up and comming red necks.

  You cant have all those cowboys playing in the streets.
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  buffalosrfree

  NO!