would a jw wife be advised to divorce her disfellowshipped convicted hub

by looloo 21 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    The elders will likely wimp out on this one and offer no real advice. If the hubby ends up inactive you have a better chance of the BOE "allowing" a divorce to go under spiritual abandonment.

    If this guy is a con....he will put the best foot forward at the Hall ... and keep making a way to do what he likes to do. I think I'd be looking for a restraining order and getting the hell out of Dodge. Child molesters are never reformed...and JW elders will pander to anyone who plays them and the congregation

    Just my $ .02

    ~Hill

  • babygirl75
    babygirl75
    dawg: I don't know about this one Looloo, they used to say that you couldn't divorce your Gay mate although.
    When was gay activity not pornea dawg? wusssup........................oompa

    I would say Dawg was referring to NPG's (non-practicing gay's)..... Anyway...with regard to this, I'm not sure they would advise her to divorce, but I sure as hell would even if they didn't consider herself "free" to marry again!!

  • Mary
    Mary
    if he has been convicted of child abuse and doing a prison sentence , would she tell any newly interested ones where her husband was? or would elders tell her to say he was"working away" or to avoid answering so as not to "stumble" new ones ? she is supporting him as far as i know . he was not disfellowshipped for the child abuse by the way., that was only worthy of a reproof.

    While she would be entitled to a scriptural divorce, I doubt that the elders would actually encourage it. The only time they ever encourage a divorce, is if your spouse becomes "apostate" and no longer believes all the nonsense that comes from the platform.

  • DJK
    DJK

    I think anyone would advise her to divorce a husband who has been justly convicted of a crime, any crime, and sentenced to jail.

    Its her choice what she feels she should do.

    For child molestation I would advise her to research the subject. She'll learn of a high rate of repeat offenders and this will help her to make a sound decision that could be best for her in the future.

  • looloo
    looloo

    mickey 4321 , he was given a reproof for a sex assault on a child in the cong then went on to abuse again, but the reason he was disfellowshipped was an affair with a pioneer girl in more recent years,the child abuse that had not ben reported to the police came out in court after he was arrested for abusing my child , the judge called it a coverup!he had been disfellowshipped for a lot of years before he abused my child . fisherman is raping children and getting them to do oral sex on him and performing it on them the watchtowers idea of porneia ? hortensia he was not my husband but my friends husband who is supporting him because she does not believe he abused my child , and as far as the other victims go ,he abused them years ago before she married him so thats in the past !!!!!! he would never do it again thanks for all your replies guys its been helpful, it helps to know people feel the same anger as me , maybe one day i can move on

  • primitivegenius
    primitivegenius
    WTS or its agents CANNOT advise any individual to divorce for any reason whatsoever as far as I know. That is a personal decision and the wts will not meddle, however, the wts WILL tell you that you do not qualify to get a scriptural divorce and if you reject such counsel and remmary you may get df.

    yeah thats what they put on paper to bulls*** their way out of responsiblity in court.... fact is they will make up their mind and use the fact that "Jehovah Hates A Divorce" to recommend the spouse to take them back.

    ive known tons of people who had abuseing husbands who were told to take him back........... even threatened with the loss of privledges ......both commenting and service and talks......... if they got the divorce. the justification........ the divorce would bring reproach upon the congregations name and jehovah so since it was a VISIBLE act for everyone to see...... so there must be VISIBLE consequences. this was told to the INNOCENT mate after her abuseing husband committed adultery and got caught and DF'ed. just another case of elders covering their asses.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    We ought get away from the concept of dubs being told what to do in their personal life by the elders. The WT is very clear that elders must not give advice .. That is not to say that it has not happened, or that some dimmo elders will still do it. They do a lot of things they are not supposed to, and fail to do even more that they should do.

    As for choosing to reprove a child abuser, as happened in the Mill Hill, London congregation a while back. The elders are told this in the "Pay Attention Book, Unit 5.

    "Even though the wrongdoer is guilty of a serious offense,

    elders on the judicial committee realize that their

    aim is to recover the one who has fallen into a wrong

    course, whenever this is possible . (Jude 23)

    If he listens to them, showing true repentance, it may be

    that he can be retained as a brother and thus be spared

    being disfellowshipped . (Prov. 19 :20 ; compare Matthew

    18 :15-17 .)

    Neither the gravity of the wrong nor bad publicity

    finally determines whether the person should be disfellowshipped

    ; rather, the determining factor is the individual's

    sincere repentance or the lack of it" .

  • dogisgod
    dogisgod

    Why would anyone WANT to even be associated with this guy much less STAY married. Creeps like him continue on because women like her won't deal with it.

  • still_in74
    still_in74
    dawg: I don't know about this one Looloo, they used to say that you couldn't divorce your Gay mate although.
    When was gay activity not pornea dawg? wusssup........................oompa
    I would say Dawg was referring to NPG's (non-practicing gay's).....

    actually Dawg is right.... this was in the early 70's. Fornication was defined as sex between an unmarried man and woman. Thus homosexuality and even beastiality were NOT fornication and therefore not grounds for divorce. Therefore, if a JW husband was caught banging a guys dog (or vice-versa) his JW wife WOULD BE DF'd if she divorced him. This changed around 1974, about the same time new light" on oral sex changed (and by "changed" I mean completely flip-flopped) TWICE inside of one year.

  • looloo
    looloo

    dogis good , you are so right there , and the really weird thing is even her pervy husband would agree with you , as i remenber having conversations with him regarding him having no respct for doormat females that keep on forgiving and they deserve all that men do to them for being so gullible !!!!! he was such a nice guy aswll as womanhater!! i really hopeehe has a nice butch female prison warder in charge of him that bosses him around and speaks to him like shit , what goes around comes around as they say !!! not that im bitter

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