does it upset jws that avoid contact with non jw family?

looloo

my hub is disfellowshipped, we have a 4 year old child , i make it very clear that im annoyed with local elders who never reported the min servant that abused children in the local cong to the police leaving him free to abuse my child , i am not a jw and have never been one , i would have thought that my hubs family ie his mother , brothers and sister would see my point of view regarding this matter, and not take it out on my innocent 4 year old by not coming to visit her , or inviting her to thier home since last july , when it was the court case so i asked mum inlaw to look after her grandchild as i had no choice . they can think im an apostate bitch if they like because i really do no care but it must upset them not seeing my husband and child , when some of you were dubs did it upset you not having contact with grandchildren/neices /nephews, i know that as a child my hubs sister cried her self to sleep at night worrying about her non jw father dying at armagedon, poor kid i think thats child abuse putting that in her head . what should i do to encourage a relationship with my child, they only live a 15 min walk away . ( it was not my 4 year old that was abused , but achild to my 1st husband )

Honesty

((((((((((looloo))))))))))

Welcome to the insanity that is reality for the Jehovah's Witnesses.

They are depraved individuals who have given their souls to the "Faithful Slave" of the watchtower Society.

tijkmo

insanity

indeed it is a kind of insanity...

but that doesn't mean they don't feel the pain too..

i know my family did

and when i was eventually reinstated one of the elders in my hall told me how painful it was to come to the kh and not be able to speak to me.

the problem is that the priority is obeying the org rather than doing the humane loving thing.

even when they know mistakes have been made allegiance is still first and foremost to the org.

which is fact insane.

dawg

Glad to have you here Looloo....

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I could give a rat's behind how my family feels about shunning me.... the choice to follow men and abandon logic was all theirs... they refuse to even read one thing that shows how wrong the WTBTS is, and then hold against their own son for doing the appropiate research and reaizing its all crap.

So, they've taken their love away from me and will not give it back unless I live my life as one great big giant lie. Its emotional blackmail, they're basically saying that I have to believe what I know for a damn fact to be false or they will not associate with me... and am I to pity them for acting like a bunch of jackasses? Please, they've made my life a living hell and for what? So the most foolish of men can maintain power over all those in my family....

It was this very thing that made me say, enough, I'll let no other family member go through this crap any longer. I made my stand, and I regret it not.

For the sake of the children you love, until they're old enough to really know the difference of right and wrong, don't allow your kids to be endoctrinated by these fools...watch how inlaws try to endoctrinate your young ones... I wouldn't allow my kids to be around JWs alone becasue indoctrination is in their blood they can't not do it.... I have no idea what level of knowledge you possess reguarding these evil bastards at the GB.... but a book titled "Crisis of Conscience" written buy a former GB member Ray Franz is a great place to start.

I hope I didn't step on your toes, but the GB are evil bastards in my mind, doing all they can to maintain control... the Bible doesn't say that questioning a manmade dogma should cause your family to shun you, my family made that choice even after years of me asking for scriptual evidence that this should be done... THey can provide it not becasue it doesn't exist.

So the choice to shun is all theirs, I don't for one damn minute feel sorry for them... its their cowardice that casues this harm as I'm certain that they are too afraid of making the proper stand, afraid they'll be shunned, that keeps them from treating me like a son... so for that, their feelings be damned... I could care less. Sorry I posted this long but I needed to say that.

primitivegenius

i agree with you 100% dawg.......... when i went out of my way to see my family and actually introduce my YEAR OLD son to my father......... who could come half way to my house a dozen times to work on a F***ING ASSEMBLY HALL.............. but couldnt come see his own grandson ONCE.........

i stopped by for a few minutes on the way to see other family......... stayed 3hours away for 10 plus days.......... and came back by for an hour or so........

DID THEY EVER LOAD him up with crap........... and they might not think i saw it......... but i saw that F***ING bible story book they had close to the junk........ i was waiting for it to be put in............ JUST so i could throw that MOTHER F***ER into the field as we drove off.

My son will NEVER be left alone with a cult member.............. over my dead body

dawg

Your a big old dude too Primative Genius... I don't think I'd mess with you.

WHat makes me ill Primitive, is that they take a person with a soul, like your son, and he becomes nothing if he don't see things their way. Its his life we're talking about for Chrsits sake. I want him, you, me, and everyone I know to just be happy... isn't that enough? And they destroy that for many... we have one time to shine on this planet, and they destroy it... just damn them bastards for that.

R.Crusoe

You know what the hardest thing I have to learn to do is?

To absolutely disagree with shunning loved ones but have to tell myself to shun in order to stop rendering myself unable to get a life and be happy about it. The circular reasoning has you doing exactly what it is you hate and there is no escape from it and you wonder HTF you ever got in this situation like a carousel with only you on it and all the lights out.

So Dawg I think your advice is cool but it takes all your energy hanging on to that 'doctrine' hoping one day it will 'feel' natural!!

I wish all of you success!

dawg

Carusoe, I don't know that I'll ever get it right... hell, all we can do is what we can do... I don't know that anyone has the answers.

primitivegenius

i know what you mean dawg........... how much snow you gettin?

what makes me laugh my everloving a$$ off is the fact that when my mom and sister actually came to see my son born......... they brought another F***ING witness with them...... and didnt call me untill they were half way here............... gotta love that kinda sh**.

so here he is....... and all my sister could say was.......... remember summers are for grandparents............ i was laughing and laughing.............. there is no way i would ever send him to see them. either me or his mother will be right by his side every single moment he is anywhere near a witless....... no exceptions

flipper

LOOLOO- I agree with the other posters I would protect your children from being alone with these witnesses . In answer to your question - Does it bother witnesses who avoid their relatives . I sometimes wonder that myself. Dawg was right that the only way the witnesses worry for you is that they feel you are going to be destroyed at Armageddon, unless you come back . So, I feel they only worry about you in a conditional way- it is all conditional on you getting back into the Witnesses again. Pretty twisted kind of love I feel

does it upset jws that avoid contact with non jw family?

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