Were the Cananites evil or were they simply destroyed for their land?

by jambon1 18 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dane
    Dane

    Hi,

    Both - the Cananites were evil and, among other bad things, worshipping several gods. If they had been worshipping Jehovah, he would've let the Jews live side-by-side with them.

    According to the Watchtower Library, Jehovah repetedly promised Abraham, that his descendants would inherit the country and he commanded Abraham to travel around in the country.

    Also according to the Watchtower Library, not all Cananites were killed or subjects to the Jews. The citizens in the cities/towns, which the Jews conquerred, were all killed though.

    Jehovah didn't just intend, that the inhabitants were to be removed or driven out. It was also about, that God, "the one who's judging all the earth" (Genesis 18:25) had the right to pronounce a death sentence over those, who deserved it and to see, that the sentence was carried out.

    The Cananites were also immoral and sheding blood. Their religion was very depraved. Their "holy poles" were with no doubt fallos symbols and the cult actions on the sacrifice hills were in many cases connected with gross sexual excesses and perversions. Incest, homosexual actions and having sex with animals belonged to "what was common in the land of Cana'an" and it made the country unclean and it therefore had to "vomit its inhabitants". Magic, witchcraft, spiritualism and sacrifices of children also belonged to the abominations, which the Cananites were guilty of.

    That was some quotes from the Watchtower Library, which I've tried to translate from Danish into English. Hope, I've managed to translate it into an understandable English.

    Agape,

    Dane/Ulla

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    They were having weapons of mass destruction.

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    They were having weapons of mass destruction.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Dane - There are two things to remember:

    1) The Victor always writes history - In this case the ancient Jews.

    2) The Victor always blames the victim and praises / blames 'God' for the atrocities they have committed against their victim.

    Jehovah, in the information given to us by the ancient Jews, was an evil, genocidal, jealous, ego maniacal fanatic who threatened everyone left right and centre and demanded blood sacrifice to satiate his blood lust.

    The ancient Jews therefore blamed the Canaanites by accusing them of all sorts of abominations and then excused their own atrocities and abominable behaviour against their victims by saying: 'They deserved it!'

    The victims get to say nothing because, guess what? They're dead!

    You can excuse the ancient Jews and Jehovah till you're blue in the fact but facts are facts and murder is murder, and atrocities are still atrocities whoevers name you commit them under!

  • kurtbethel
    kurtbethel

    The Caananites did have some prime real estate that was desirable to the little Hebrew tribe. Also, they had bad worship practices and a particularly nasty chief god named El.

    Hmmmm. ISis-RA-EL. Israel.

  • Gill
    Gill

    Kurtbethel - That would be three Gods then - Isis, Ra and El!

    The Jews were Polytheistic long before they were Monotheistic.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Actually this goes back to the time right after the flood where Noah's son Ham's son Canaan supposed laughed at his grandfathers's drunkeness and nakedness. How many years later was it....over 1,000 years.

    *** w04 1/1 p. 31 Highlights From the Book of Genesis—I ***

    9:20-25—WhydidNoahcurseCanaan?Very likely Canaan was guilty of some abuse or perversion against his grandfather Noah. Though Canaan’s father, Ham, witnessed this, he did not interfere but appears to have spread the story

    *** it-1 pp. 399-400 Canaan ***

    . The fourth-listed son of Ham and grandson of Noah. (Ge 9:18; 10:6; 1Ch 1:8) He was the progenitor of 11 tribes who eventually inhabited the region along the eastern Mediterranean between Egypt and Syria, thereby giving it the name "the land of Canaan."—Ge 10:15-19; 1Ch 16:18; see No. 2.

    Following the incident regarding Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan came under Noah’s prophetic curse foretelling that Canaan would become the slave of both Shem and Japheth. (Ge 9:20-27) Since the record mentions only that "Ham the father of Canaan saw his father’s nakedness and went telling it to his two brothers outside," the question arises as to why Canaan rather than Ham became the object of the curse. Commenting on Genesis 9:24, which states that when Noah awoke from his wine he "got to know what his youngestson had done to him," a footnote in Rotherham’s translation says: "Undoubtedly Canaan, and not Ham: Shem and Japheth, for their piety, are blessed; Canaan, for some unnamed baseness, is cursed; Ham, for his neglect, is neglected." Similarly, a Jewish publication, ThePentateuchandHaftorahs, suggests that the brief narrative "refers to some abominable deed in which Canaan seems to have been implicated." (Edited by J. H. Hertz, London, 1972, p. 34) And, after noting that the Hebrew word translated "son" in verse 24 may mean "grandson," this source states: "The reference is evidently to Canaan." TheSoncinoChumash also points out that some believe Canaan "indulged a perverted lust upon [Noah]," and that the expression "youngest son" refers to Canaan, who was the youngest son of Ham.—Edited by A. Cohen, London, 1956, p. 47.

    These views, of necessity, are conjectural since the Biblical record does not give any details as to Canaan’s implication in the offense against Noah. Yet some implication seems definitely intended by the fact that, just before relating the case of Noah’s drunkenness, Canaan is abruptly introduced into the account (Ge 9:18) and, in describing Ham’s actions, the record refers to him as "Ham the father of Canaan." (Ge 9:22) That the expression "saw his father’s nakedness" may indicate some abuse or perversion that involved Canaan, is a reasonable conclusion. For in most instances incest or other sexual sins are meant when the Bible speaks of ‘laying bare’ or ‘seeing the nakedness’ of another. (Le 18:6-19; 20:17) So, it is possible that Canaan had committed or attempted to commit some abuse on the unconscious Noah and that Ham, though having knowledge of this, failed either to prevent it or to take disciplinary action against the offender, and compounded the wrong by making known to his brothers Noah’s disgrace.

    The prophetic element of the curse must also be considered. There is no evidence to indicate that Canaan himself became the slave of Shem or Japheth during his lifetime. But, God’s foreknowledge was at work, and since the curse expressed by Noah was divinely inspired, and since God’s disfavor is not expressed without just cause, it is likely that Canaan had already manifested a definitely corrupt trait, perhaps of a lustful nature, and that God foresaw the bad results in which this characteristic would eventually culminate among Canaan’s descendants. In the earlier case of Cain, Jehovah had noted a wrong heart attitude and had warned Cain of the danger of being overcome by sin (Ge 4:3-7); God also had discerned the unreformable bent toward wickedness on the part of the majority of the pre-Flood population, making their destruction warranted. (Ge 6:5) The most obvious evidence of the justness of the curse placed on Canaan is thus seen in the later history of his descendants, for they built up a particularly sordid record of immorality and depravity, as both Biblical and secular history testify. The curse on Canaan saw its fulfillment some eight centuries after its pronouncement, when Canaan’s descendants were subjugated by the Semitic Israelites, later coming under the domination of the Japhetic powers of Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome.

  • dawg
    dawg

    Dane, may you have peace today my sister, thanks for posting....

    But I must ask you Dane, if these people were so evil that God wanted them destroyed, why did he allow them to be slaves (Lev. 25:44-46)? Why did he allow "virgins" to be raped? JUdges 21: 10-24... these are only two scriptures where evil acts occur...

    You may have figured out by now this site is not for JWs, most of us here stopped referring to the WT's point of view a long time ago, we started actaully reading the Bible for ourselves... maybe that's the place you should start if you haven't already... and if you have what is YOUR opinion of these scriptures?

    Huff

  • VM44
    VM44

    "Kill them, kill them all!"

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