Why Should I Believe in God?

by hamilcarr 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • Gotchaby
  • Gotchaby
    Gotchaby
    If I can perfectly enjoy and give meaning to my life without?

    Right you are! You don't have to believe in an alien God, because you, yourself, are God.

  • real one
    real one

    awakened07 what an interesting name....You say my God...He is the God of the Bible so to all of those that believe He is our God. We are saved by grace. JW do not believe that so maybe thats why you dont(holding on to false beliefs) Let me tell you something about the Holy Spirit. Once you have it it makes the desires you have change to the desires of Gods. So those standards you speak of are done out of pure love. as i said before everytime i wake up i try to think of how i can serve God better. whatever i do i want His name glorified. so you can say your opinion but get it right

  • real one
    real one

    gopher then go serve the wts then. he is a nice God...a false one but a nice one

  • free2beme
    free2beme

    Can anyone show me a die hard Jesus Freak that is not a belligerent buffoon with obvious signs of mental disease or head injury? I just want to know, does such a thing exist, or does the term Jesus freak and such a personality go hand and hand?

  • Awakened07
    Awakened07
    You say my God...He is the God of the Bible so to all of those that believe He is our God.

    Yes - to all those who believe in the God of the Bible. But then again, not really. Only on this forum, there are Christians so far apart in what they believe in, that they may as well have different Gods.

    -You equate the God of the Bible with the one, True God (obviously), and all other gods as false idols - just as I used to do. You don't realize that the Judeo-Christian God is just another in a seemingly never ending row of deities. And I don't expect you to.

    We are saved by grace. JW do not believe that so maybe thats why you dont(holding on to false beliefs)

    I'm not holding on to any beliefs, but there is no doubt that the Bible clearly points out in several passages how one should live if one wishes not to be condemned. That in turn translates to having to live and believe a certain way in order to be saved. If not, then no one will be condemned, and all will be saved. In the very very least, you'll have to agree that people will need to accept Jesus (the way you see him) in order to be saved. If not, I really don't see the point in having a specific belief or religion, because then everyone would be saved no matter what. My point in the other reply was that people of other religions believe just as strongly as you do that their God is the True one. Since you don't believe as they do, you are condemned by their God, and vice versa (as I explained in the previous post). But I don't expect you to see this. It requires looking at everything "from the outside".

    so you can say your opinion but get it right

    I think I got it right the first time.

    I'm not going to try and take your God away from you. But just as you promote your views, I'll promote mine. You seem to be happy in your worship of your God, and that's OK by me, but I will continue to post my own views. I don't expect you to change views, and if it were to happen, it would have to come from yourself anyway. Perhaps you are a better, more stable person because of your beliefs. Many people are. I won't try to change that (unless I do so inadvertently over time). I know you have a personal relationship with Jesus, just as I once thought I had. Just realize that others have personal relationships with their deities as well. They are just as convinced as you are. Hard to believe and grasp perhaps.

  • real one
    real one

    awakened 07 you bring up the false doctrine that you can be saved then condemned. that my friend is not true. once you are saved you are saved. you are not saved by works nor are you saved by deeds. once you accept Christ as your personal savior that is it. you cannot do anything to loose salvation. if you could then why get saved in the first place. why did Christ die? He died once for all. so there is nothing we can do either good or bad to loose it. God's word means what it says. If it didnt then God would be a liar and we know He cannot do that.eph 2: 8-10 tells us this. You only need faith to be saved

  • real one
    real one

    free2beme im sorry you are so angry..but i am happy with Jesus. Give Him a try.

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    The only reason you should believe in God is if the available evidence compels you to believe in him. In fact, that's the only way it's possible to really believe in something; the self-deception promoted by real one is not the same as actually believing.

  • Caedes
    Caedes
    gopher then go serve the wts then. he is a nice God...a false one but a nice one

    I wonder what exactly is the fundamental difference between the god of the WBTS and real one's god of judgement and eternal torment? What makes one false and the other 'true' in real one's world view? I imagine that FD hit the nail on the head, self deception is key to such certainty when faced with a complete lack of evidence.

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