16 reasons to doubt the divinity of the bible

by bboyneko 15 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko

    1)THE Old Testament must have been written nearly two thousand years before the invention of Printing. There were but few copies, and these were in the keeping of those whose interest might have prompted interpolations, and whose ignorance might have led to mistakes.

    2) The written Hebrew was composed entirely of consonants, without any points or marks standing for vowels, so that anything like accuracy was impossible, Anyone can test this for himself by writing an English sentence, leaving out the vowels. It will take far more inspiration to read than to write a book with consonants alone.

    3) The books composing the Old Testament were not divided into chapters or verses, and no system of punctuation was known. Think of this a moment and you will see how difficult it must be to read such a book.
    4) There was not among the Jews any dictionary of their language, and for this reason the accurate meaning of words could not be preserved. Now the different meanings of words are preserved so that by knowing the age in which a writer lived we can ascertain with reasonable certainty his meaning.

    5) The Old Testament was printed for the first time in 1488. Until this date it existed only in manuscript, and was constantly exposed to erasures and additions.

    6) It is not certainly known who in fact wrote any of the books of the Old Testament. For instance, it is now generally conceded that Moses was not the author of the Pentateuch.

    7) Other books, not now in known existence, are referred to in the Old Testament as of equal authority, such as the books of Jasher, Nathan, Ahijah, Iddo, Jehu, Sayings of the Seers.

    8) The Christians are not agreed among themselves as to what books are inspired. The Catholics claim as inspired the books of Maccabees, Tobit, Esdras, etc. Others doubt the inspiration of Esther, Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Solomon.

    9) In the book of Esther and the Song of Solomon the name of God is not mentioned, (YHWH) and no reference is made to any supreme being, nor to any religions duty. these omissions would seem sufficient to cast a little doubt upon these books.

    10) The manuscripts of the Old Testament were not alike, and the Greek version differed from the Hebrew, and there was no absolutely received text of the Old Testament until after the commencement of the Christian era. Marks and points to denote vowels were invented probably about the seventh century after Christ. Whether these vowels were put in the proper places or not is still an open question.

    11) If a revelation from God was actually necessary to the happiness of man here and to his salvation hereafter, it is not easy to see why such revelation was not given to all the nations of the earth. Why were the millions of Asia, Egypt, and America left to the insufficient light of nature. Why was not a written, or what is still better, printed revelation given to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden? And why were the Jews themselves without a Bible until the days of Ezra the scribe? Why was nature not so made that it would give light enough? Why did God make men and leave them in darkness -- a darkness that he knew would fill the world with want and crime, and crowd with damned souls the dungeons of hell? Were the Jews the only people who needed a revelation? It may be said that God had no time to waste with other nations, and gave the Bible to the Jews that other nations through them might learn of his existence and his will. If he wished other nations to be informed, and revealed himself to but one, why did he not choose a people that mingled with others? Why did he give the message to those who had no commerce, who were obscure and unknown, and who regarded other nations with the hatred born of bigotry and weakness? What would we now think of a God who made his will known to the South Sea Islanders for the benefit of the civilized world? If it was of such vast importance for man to know that there is a God, why did not God make himself known? This fact could have been revealed by an infinite being instantly to all, and there certainly was no necessity of telling it alone to the Jews, and allowing millions for thousands of years to die in utter ignorance.

    12) Twenty-first The Chinese, Japanese, Hindus, Tartars, Africans, Eskimo, Persians, Turks, Kurds, Arabs, Polynesians, and many other peoples, are substantially ignorant of the Bible. All the Bible societies of the world have produced only about one hundred and twenty millions of Bibles, and there are about fourteen hundred million people. There are hundreds of languages and tongues in which no Bible has yet been printed. Why did God allow, and why does he still allow, a vast majority of his children to remain in ignorance of his will?

    13) If the Bible is the foundation of all civilization, of all just ideas of right and wrong, of our duties to God and each other, why did God not give to each nation at least one copy to start with? He must have known that no nation could get along successfully without a Bible, and he also knew that man could not make one for himself. Why, then, were not the books furnished? He must have known that the light of nature was not sufficient to reveal the scheme of the atonement, the necessity of baptism, the immaculate conception, transubstantiation, the arithmetic of the Trinity, or the resurrection of the dead.

    14) It is probably safe to say that not one-third of the inhabitants of this world ever heard of the Bible, and not one- tenth ever read it. It is also safe to say that no two persons who ever read it agreed as to its meaning, and it is not likely that even one person has ever understood it. Nothing is more needed at the present time than an inspired translator. Then we shall need an inspired commentator, and the translation and the commentary should be written in an inspired universal language, incapable of change, and then the whole world should be inspired to understand this language precisely the same. Until these things are accomplished, all written revelations from God will fill the world with contending sects, contradictory creeds and opinions.

    15) Why should a man, because he has done a bad action, go and kill a sheep? How can man make friends with God by cutting the throats of bullocks and goats? Why should God delight in the shedding of blood? Why should he want his altar sprinkled with blood, and the horns of his altar tipped with blood, and his priests covered with blood? Why should burning flesh be a sweet savor in the nostrils of God? Why did he compel his priests to be butchers, cutters and stabbers? Why should the same God kill a man for eating the fat of an ox, a sheep, or a goat?

    16) Is it not wonderful that the creator of all worlds, infinite in power and wisdom, could not hold his own against the gods of wood and stone? Is it not strange that after he had appeared to his chosen people, delivered them from slavery, fed them by miracles, opened the sea for a path, led them by cloud and fire, and overthrown their pursuers, they still preferred a calf of their own making? Is it not beyond belief that this God, by statutes and commandments, by punishments and penalties, by rewards and promises, by wonders and plagues, by earthquakes and pestilence, could not in the least civilize the Jews -- could not get them beyond a point where they deserved killing? What shall we think of a God who gave his entire time for forty years to the work of converting three millions of people, and succeeded in getting only two men, and not a single woman, decent enough to enter the promised land? Was there ever in the history of man so detestable an administration of public affairs?

    -compiled from an essay '62 reasons to doubt the divinity of the bible'

  • ItsJustMe
    ItsJustMe

    Until I have time to digest all the information outlined here, I will not address any of the points mentioned. However, Bible prophecy has always been a powerful reason to me to believe in the inspiration of the Bible. I also tend to believe that most "holy" books are inspired.

    Of course, my opinions are still being formulated.

  • bboyneko
    bboyneko

    I can post in a seperate thread the many failed prophesies of the bible. Nostradamus seemed to have predicted hitler, does that make him holy and everything he say truth?

  • sleepy
    sleepy

    bboyneko
    Exactly what I think

    ItsJustMe
    I hope you can find just one Bible prophecy that can be shown to have come true.
    You need to show
    1 when it was written.
    2 what it means.
    3 when and how fullfilled.
    The prophecy will have to be unambiguous and not rely on controversial interpretation.

  • ItsJustMe
    ItsJustMe

    Just so you don't think I'm ignorning you, I will try to do just that. However, I'm not at home right now, so it will take me a little while to get back to you on that.

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Good Book 'em, Dan-o!

    (I had to s-t-r-e-t-c-h for that one, I know.

    If I may mince words, the Bible doesn't have 'divinity," does it?

    Divinity is that sweet sugary confection, right?

  • accuracy
    accuracy

    This thread contains too many half-baked generalizations to shed any light. To be sure, those who do not wish to believe that the Bible is the Word of God can find a million "reasons" for that disbelief. But if the disbelief is supposedly based upon scholarship, it is wise to get the facts correct.

    For example, one of the reasons was:

    "2) The written Hebrew was composed entirely of consonants, without any points or marks standing for vowels, so that anything like accuracy was impossible, Anyone can test this for himself by writing an English sentence, leaving out the vowels. It will take far more inspiration to read than to write a book with consonants alone."

    Wrong! It does not compromise accuracy or understanding that Biblical Hebrew was written without vowels. Modern Israeli Hebrew is also written without vowels, and millions of people understand and use it with precision and accuracy just fine. It is the language of literature, politics, and everyday life in modern Israel. Because it is a living language, people don't need the "vowels," though in some cases -- as in Biblical Hebrew -- certain consonants also do double duty as "vowels." And while Biblical Hebrew was still a living language, it was translated into Greek, which does have vowels. Therefore, the Greek translation (the LXX) can offer some assistance in understanding obscure Hebrew Biblical terms.

    Remember, too, the example of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Though nearly 2,000 years older than the standard Hebrew Masoretic texts of Isaiah, over nearly 2,000 years of transmission by copyists, the DSS text is virtually identical with the Masoretic text. In view of the time, what few variants in spelling do exist -- none of which affect basic understanding or teaching -- are simply remarkable. One might even say "divinely" protected.

    There are similar flaws in all the points you have presented. But I will not go into them here, for in truth, entire books have already been written on these matters, containing excellent positive research.

  • Zep
    Zep

    Accuracy

    To be sure, those who do not wish to believe that the Bible is the Word of God can find a million "reasons" for that disbelief.

    Thats because there is a million reasons for disbelief.

    I'll tell you. The reason why I disbelief the bible aint because I wanted to. It's because rationality forced me to.

  • JanH
    JanH

    "accuracy" (what a misleading name):

    Modern Israeli Hebrew is also written without vowels

    No it isn't.

    - Jan
    --
    "Doctor how can you diagnose someone with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and then act like I had some choice about barging in here right now?" -- As Good As It Gets

  • JanH
    JanH

    accuracy (again):

    the DSS text is virtually identical with the Masoretic text

    No, it isn't.

    - Jan
    --
    "Doctor how can you diagnose someone with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and then act like I had some choice about barging in here right now?" -- As Good As It Gets

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