The automobile has destroyed our country.

by dawg 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • BlackSwan of Memphis
    BlackSwan of Memphis

    Hey dawg, ya know, I get what you mean.

    Growing up, I loved all things Victorian. I loved the poufy dresses that were so elegant and romantic. I loved the stories of how women were ladies and men were gentlemen. I loved the frills and laces and big bows atop the heads of little girls with page boy haircuts. Life seemed so much more genteel and community based.

    But ya know.

    After a little (or a lot of) thought, I realized that them good ol' days were not so grand. Especially for women and minorties. Between what was "customary" and "proper" to the important issues of freedom and slavery and voting, life was not so great. Life was pretty damned hard back in them good ol days. Communities, were likely fraught with internal problems and issues that they did not have the information or experience to deal with. To begin to enumerate how far society has come, because of technology would take days.

    That sense of community that many are missing does not need to be lost. A close friend of mine has developed an awesome neighborhood community just from simply talking to people and asking if they want to stop by for a beer on the porch later. We know most of the people in our neighborhood and do our best to be there for one another and watch out for each other.

    It is possible to have that close knit community and even better we are doing it in an age where people are much more educated and less ignorant of what is going on around them and therefore opening the lines of communication in a way that is more important now, than quite possibly ever before.

  • dawg
    dawg

    Swan, I know what you mean, the previous posts were about how technology would make the "good old days" the days which lay ahead. I'm saying to return to a more community based atmosphere where our jobs are close by, our friends and family are close by, but keep the technology... wouldn't that be great?

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    Dawg,

    In the last decade or so certain urban planners have embraced a concept called "smart growth". It advocates having your services and even perhaps your employment within walking distance. Two suburbs of Minneapolis (Golden Valley and St. Louis Park) have developed such neighborhoods close to their core.

    Maybe this concept would be closer to that "utopia" where you have modern technology but opportunity for a close neighborhood.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_growth

    Growth is "smart growth", to the extent that it includes the elements listed below.[9][10].

    [edit] Compact neighborhoods

    Compact, livable urban neighborhoods attract more people and business. Creating such neighborhoods is a critical element of reducing urban sprawl and protecting the climate. Such a tactic includes adopting redevelopment strategies and zoning policies that channel housing and job growth into urban centers and neighborhood business districts, to create compact, walkable, and bike- and transit-friendly hubs. This sometimes requires local governmental bodies to implement code changes that allow increased height and density downtown and regulations that not only eliminate minimum parking requirements for new development but establish a maximum number of allowed spaces. Other topics fall under this concept:

    [edit] Transit-oriented development

    Transit-oriented development (TOD) is a residential or commercial area designed to maximize access to public transport, and mixed-use/compact neighborhoods tend to use transit at all times of the day. Many cities striving to implement better TOD strategies seek to secure funding to create new public transportation infrastructure and improve existing services. Other measures might include regional cooperation to increase efficiency and expand services, and moving buses and trains more frequently through high-use areas. Other topics fall under this concept:

    [edit] Pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly design

    Biking and walking instead of driving can reduce emissions, save money on fuel and maintenance, and foster a healthier population. Pedestrian- and bicycle-friendly improvements include bike lanes on main streets, an urban bike-trail system, bike parking, pedestrian crossings, and associated master plans. The most pedestrian- and bike-friendly variant of smart growth and New Urbanism is New Pedestrianism because motor vehicles are on a separate grid.

    [edit] Others
    • preserving open space and critical habitat, reusing land, and protecting water supplies and air quality
    • transparent, predictable, fair and cost-effective rules for development
    • historic preservation
    • Setting aside large areas where development is prohibited, nature is able to run its course, providing fresh air and clean water.
    • Expansion around already existing areas allows public services to be located where people are living without taking away from the core city neighborhoods in large urban areas.
    • Developing around preexisting areas decreases the socioeconomic segregation allowing society to function more equitably, generating a tax base for housing, educational and employment programs.
  • Plummet
    Plummet

    "The only good thing about the good ole days is that they are gone" - Says Our 65 year old part time Secretary

  • undercover
    undercover

    I'll give up my car...and motorcycle...and truck... when they pry the keys from my cold, dead hands

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    Dawg, The book was directed at technology in general. That's why he went to live as the Amish do (the more strict sects). He didn't become a Luddite or anything, but realized that much of the technology in his life directly detracted from the quality of his life. I really hope you read the book, it's very good.

  • daniel-p
    daniel-p

    About Smart Growth, unfortunately, it and its cousin, New Urbanism, are more often used as marketing tools to get actually rather conventional subdivisions approved. This isnt to say that the ideas are faulty, but that the current land use regulation system at the local level is geared toward 50s-style development, for the most part.

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I think television and the internet are also a factor. If people didnt have cars they would still be inside watching tv or playing on the computer. I just read a book for the second time, "The sex lives of Canibals" by Marten Troost, If you want to have the kind of life you miss, it can give you some insights on how to find it. http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Lives-Cannibals-Equatorial-Pacific/dp/0767915305

  • Barbie Doll
    Barbie Doll
    based atmosphere where our jobs are close by, our friends and family are close by, but keep the technology... wouldn't that be great?

    I live in California, I don't want to leave here.

    My son lives in Kentucky, he does't want to leave there.

    My daughter lives in Menifee, she loves it there.

    To make everybody happy, I need a car.

    My Husband and I love cars, we like to race them.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    I would give up my four-wheeled pollution and global warming increaser in a minute if i could.

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