I could never go back after finding out what the WT really is all about. That's why I couldn't do the gradual fade thing - just couldn't stomach it without wanting to vomit and scream!
Maddie
To all those that are seriously thinking about going back to JWism...
by nvrgnbk 26 Replies latest jw friends
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SPAZnik
Fascinating and intense thread.
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flipper
NVR- Some of us left the witnesses for both reasons you are stating. We were the victims of injustice and we saw the lies in the beliefs as well. Let me explain what I mean by this.
You stated that the " reasons some had for leaving had nothing to do with truth or reality , or what's factual. " Some of us left because of dealing with abuses by elders being treated unjustly , because of being hounded or berated by their personal opinions forced on us - as they were not following the WT societies instructions in giving counsel from the Bible or giving counsel from the WT publications. They gave their personal opinions to us ; which did not coincide with wahat we were taught. And those were truthful situations that happened to some of us, and very real situations. I saw others treated like this , and others as well !
But, also what motivated me to leave the witnesses was I disagreed with their beliefs as well. And I learned they are a " mind control" cult. There is NOTHING that would ever get me to go back. So, I'm just saying SOME of us left for both reasons , being mistreated and seeing the lies and untruths in the beliefs. Doesn't have to be one or the other - it may at times be both reasons.
I feel I'm in a very stable place in my life - but that doesn't mean I don't have resentment still toward the witness cult. I just accept my resentment and move on to more positive things. I don't sit and wallow in the mire so to speak. Gotta move on. I want to help others exit the cult as well -
nvrgnbk
You're a caring and sincere person, Mr. Flipper.
You go out of your way to show concern for others.
As for injustices or perceived injustices suffered, couldn't the same be said about involvement in any human organization?
Abuse of power and incompetent leadership are not ills unique to JWism.
What hurt so bad about it coming from the JW experience is that it was supposed to be a refuge from a cold and heartless world, not a source of more anxiety.
I hope you don't interpret any of the content of this thread as an attempt to minimize any of suffering that has occurred as a result of being involved with the JW cult.
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flipper
NVR- No, I don't interpret any part of your thread as minimizing " any of the suffering that has occurred as a result of being involved in the JW cult ". I know you wouldn't minimize it. I was just trying to explain that people leave the JW cult for both reasons - at the same time - which you were mentioning. A person may leave for being abused by unjust treatment of elders , and that same person may leave for disagreeing with the beliefs . A person may have multiple reasons for leaving is what I mean. I did.
The reason I mention this is because it seemed that you were stating in the initial post that those leaving for being hurt only were leaving for these reasons alone - and that's not always the case. Some leave for being mistreated and disagreeing with the beliefs. You are correct - it may be the case of either/or , but many times it can be multiple factors.
And you are right - abuse of power can come in any organization , it's not just the JW organization that does that - but like you said , many of us were duped into trusting the " crags in waterless countries " to our own detriment. And it did hurt because of trusting in that , at least for me , for 44 years . But something snapped in me during the mistreatment , and that unjust treatment propelled me to research more about the lies being told and then it became a reason I left as well ! So, for me it was multiple , perhaps for others too, that's all I was saying -
slimboyfat
I have no axe to grind against any Witnesses really. They are mostly kind people, although I never became terribly close to many or if I did it did not last long. (My wife being the exception coming to think on it) I guess this is why my withdrawal has been/will be such a long drawn out process. But now I know it is not the "truth" I can't go back tot he way it was. And this perspective sort of curtails social networking among Witnesses too. I get the worst of both worlds.
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ninja
slim ......me too.....its the twats that have got them by the balls I have a problem with