Can you explain this?

by smilelover 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • edmond dantes
    edmond dantes

    Hi smilelover,

    I mean that their false logic is so glaringly obvious.For instance the end didn't arrive in 1914 as they predicted so they made some lame excuse and said that the devil was kicked out of heaven ,they can't prove it but they carry on repeating their pathetic fallacy.In the same vein they said Jesus would return at that time and every eye would see him which didn't happen so they said ,well he has returned but only those in the know recognise the fact that he returned invisibly.The generation doctrine has been turned on it's head and the list goes on,if you throw in a couple of mansions for the ancient worthies they become a laughing stock.

    The fictional Edmond Dantes sure is a hero,thrown in a dungeon for something he was falsly accused of .His bride to be marries one of his accusers because she thinks he is dead.His father dies of starvation.Eventually with the help of a priest he gains wisdom and knowledge escapes from the Chateau D'If ,finds the hidden treasure in a cave. He then, with his wealth becomes The Count Of Monte Cristo and begins to put right the injustice by destroying Baron Danglar, Villefort, Caderousse ,and Mondego.

    Love it.

    Edmond.

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    The people here are mostly ex-Jw's. We have suffered for being in this religion. We have finally become free of this destructive influence and now are using this forum to work through issues we have with being a former JW, with others who can understand our feelings. Yes, it involves criticizing the religion, because for a long time, we could not even THINK these things, much less say them. It's a relief to finally express these things.

  • Terry
    Terry

    Christianity, at its best, represents charity, love, forgiveness and optimism.

    JW's, by stark contrast, defame Christianity, abhor charity, prey on fear, shun rather than forgive and are the biggest pessimists on the planet.

    JW's are among the most unschooled know-it-alls walking around with a chip on their shoulder, ready to scripture duel to the death by provocative name-calling taunts to mainstream church-goers.

    JW's jury-rigged theology turns scholarship on its collective head. They won't admit to being wrong when they clearly are and claim the highground in fights they start while pretending to be victims of discrimination.

    The Governing Body, under Judge Rutherford's leadership, was clearly engaged in treasonous activity during a time of war by encouraging members of the Armed Forces to lay down arms and leave their sworn duty. Yet, the white-washed official history proclaims they were innocently wronged by Satanic minions persecuting them because of their pure worship.

    Being Christian isn't good enough for JW's. They ignore Jesus and clothe themselves in a "better" name brand: Jehovah's Witnesses.

    JW's refuse to vote to change social conditions that hurt people or to improve the policies with which they disagree. They allow others to fight and die on their own behalf while ridiculing those who lay down their lives for them to practice a bogus religion.

    JW's flout the laws of the land when they see fit to do so, while at the same time, going to court to preserve their peculiar theology in seeking decisions which give them special treatment.

    JW's pretend to love one another, but, gossip about fellow members and see it as a righteous duty to turn their back on former brothers and sisters in times of trouble.

    JW's pretend to be charitable in times of disaster, but--their aid is only for members of their own religion!!

    JW's cop a superior attitude about themselves and their door to door activity. Yet, the efficiency of the preaching work (actually selling boring magazines and recycled claptrap books) is belied by how few members they collect in this work to offset the alarming number being ousted out the backdoor of the local Kingdom Halls.

    JW's teach and preach a message of fear and doom and gleefully await the destruction of men, women, children and even the as yet unborn at an Armageddon which allows them to claim the spoils of the massacre for themselves.

    JW's are petty, mean-spirited and ignorant because they refuse to attain higher education and confine their reading to polarized rhetorical propaganda messages from their Governing Body.

    JW's are willing slaves to mind-control concerning who they can and can't talk to or associate with. They will kowtow to narrow-minded injunctions against private sexual intimacies between husbands and wives without protest while insisting they are free, indeed.

    JW's permit no individuals to blossom in their midst. They are like coins in a mint alike in manner and deportment to the exclusion of an original thought.

    JW's are a cult because a cult is a religious group without political power or efficacy.

    They are culled into two groups which make no sense by definition. The first group is a mystical and mysterious spirit-begotten overclass which is oddly further divided into the elite and the non-elite. The other group are dogs who are permitted to eat scraps from the table of the elite class. This hierarchy mirrors the Catholic Church ( emulated adoringly) whom they denounce as Satanic.

    The cheese-eating grin of a good-old-boy JW at your door flippin' the pages of his NWT trying lay rabbit traps for him to spring on you, epitomizes the pinnacle of attainment for these Wal-Mart searsucker suited dropouts. They are under-achievers with delusions of grandeur.

    They earn and deserve the opprobrium against them.

    What have they built to shine merit upon themselves? Hospitals? None. Daycare Centers? None. Colleges for Education? None. Women's Shelters? None.

    They are nobody and nothing claiming the divine right to pick your bones and your pocket under the banner of an invisible Christ.

    Their proofs are as invisible as their ne'er-do-well Christ, whose Second Coming was a non-event--and--who hasn't done a damned thing worth mentioning since he set up shop in the heavens to jumpstart their nonsensical magazine peddling.

    Ridicule is too good for such a lot as they.

  • flipper
    flipper

    SMILE LOVER- Welcome to the board. As with many other different religions the JW's have a lot of double standards among their leaders. Having been raised a witness , I found that many rank and file members were nice , just " mind controlled " , but the real is hypocrisy in it's leaders being unwilling to admit when serious breaking of the law occurs , and hiding it from their members. Like the child abuse scandals for instance

  • smilelover
    smilelover

    THANK YOU ALL. TERRY I will answer your post because I have couple of doubts...YOU SAY: Christianity, at its best, represents charity, love, forgiveness and optimism. JW's, by stark contrast, defame Christianity, abhor charity, prey on fear, shun rather than forgive and are the biggest pessimists on the planet. I am not sure about this as I do know they have helped in many situations in the past and also people who were not JW. JW's are among the most unschooled know-it-alls walking around with a chip on their shoulder, ready to scripture duel to the death by provocative name-calling taunts to mainstream church-goers. JW's jury-rigged theology turns scholarship on its collective head. They won't admit to being wrong when they clearly are and claim the highground in fights they start while pretending to be victims of discrimination. The Governing Body, under Judge Rutherford's leadership, was clearly engaged in treasonous activity during a time of war by encouraging members of the Armed Forces to lay down arms and leave their sworn duty. Yet, the white-washed official history proclaims they were innocently wronged by Satanic minions persecuting them because of their pure worship. I do know that JW do not believe in war or politics. I'm sorry I do not get the connection between the 2 points you're trying to make here... Being Christian isn't good enough for JW's. They ignore Jesus and clothe themselves in a "better" name brand: Jehovah's Witnesses. I wouldn't say they ignore Jesus, but they DO consider themselves better than everyone else , just for being JW. JW's refuse to vote to change social conditions that hurt people or to improve the policies with which they disagree. They allow others to fight and die on their own behalf while ridiculing those who lay down their lives for them to practice a bogus religion. Same reason as above. Anyway I am not a JW and yet I DO NOT believe any politicians can really make something to solve our problems. JW's flout the laws of the land when they see fit to do so, while at the same time, going to court to preserve their peculiar theology in seeking decisions which give them special treatment. JW's pretend to love one another, but, gossip about fellow members and see it as a righteous duty to turn their back on former brothers and sisters in times of trouble. True! They're human after all who hope to be one day perfect... JW's pretend to be charitable in times of disaster, but--their aid is only for members of their own religion!! Really? Did you experience this? JW's cop a superior attitude about themselves and their door to door activity. Yet, the efficiency of the preaching work (actually selling boring magazines and recycled claptrap books) is belied by how few members they collect in this work to offset the alarming number being ousted out the backdoor of the local Kingdom Halls. JW's teach and preach a message of fear and doom and gleefully await the destruction of men, women, children and even the as yet unborn at an Armageddon which allows them to claim the spoils of the massacre for themselves. JW's are petty, mean-spirited and ignorant because they refuse to attain higher education and confine their reading to polarized rhetorical propaganda messages from their Governing Body. JW's are willing slaves to mind-control concerning who they can and can't talk to or associate with. They will kowtow to narrow-minded injunctions against private sexual intimacies between husbands and wives without protest while insisting they are free, indeed. TRUE unfortunately JW's permit no individuals to blossom in their midst. They are like coins in a mint alike in manner and deportment to the exclusion of an original thought. JW's are a cult because a cult is a religious group without political power or efficacy. They are culled into two groups which make no sense by definition. The first group is a mystical and mysterious spirit-begotten overclass which is oddly further divided into the elite and the non-elite. The other group are dogs who are permitted to eat scraps from the table of the elite class. This hierarchy mirrors the Catholic Church ( emulated adoringly) whom they denounce as Satanic. The cheese-eating grin of a good-old-boy JW at your door flippin' the pages of his NWT trying lay rabbit traps for him to spring on you, epitomizes the pinnacle of attainment for these Wal-Mart searsucker suited dropouts. They are under-achievers with delusions of grandeur. They earn and deserve the opprobrium against them. What have they built to shine merit upon themselves? Hospitals? None. Daycare Centers? None. Colleges for Education? None. Women's Shelters? None. They are nobody and nothing claiming the divine right to pick your bones and your pocket under the banner of an invisible Christ. Their proofs are as invisible as their ne'er-do-well Christ, whose Second Coming was a non-event--and--who hasn't done a damned thing worth mentioning since he set up shop in the heavens to jumpstart their nonsensical magazine peddling. Ridicule is too good for such a lot as they. It seems as though you were really damaged by these people. I agree with you on many levels and I really don't kno what to think. They all seem so nice, so sure of their belief...it's incredible. But there's something I can't figure out about them that makes me absolutely uncomfortable.

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