Alrighty then . I'm as burnt out as you probably are reading more threads about the faulty witness view of the " generation ". But please hear me out from a common sense viewpoint here. My witness mom sent me this February 15th Watchtower as I was curious about the " witness only " version and what I read about made me die from hysterical laughter !
First of all the American Heritage dictionaries definition of the word : Generation - " All of the offspring that are at the same stage of descent from a common ancestor : Mother and daughter represent TWO GENERATIONS . The average interval of time between the birth of parents and the birth of their offspring. " 30 years perhaps ? Check this Reader's Digest Oxford Dictionary definition out : Generation - "The average time in which children are ready to take the place of their parents ( usually figured at 30 years )."
Now notice this quote from the Watchtower I mentioned about their definition of the term " Generation ". "The word generation usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event . So when the term " generation " is used with reference to people living at a particular time, the exact length of that time cannot be stated except that it does have an end and would not be excessively long. "
So, a totally different definition of " generation " by the Watchtower as opposed to what it really means in the dictionary. Go figure. They misuse definitions of words to suit their purpose. Also they state , " these anointed ones make up the modern-day contemporaries that will not pass away " until all these things occur. This suggests that some who are Christ's anointed brother's will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins . " In the footnote the Watchtower takes it unrealistically one step further , note - " This feature of the Lord's day extends from 1914 until the LAST OF THE FAITHFUL ANOINTED ONES DIES AND IS RESURRECTED. " Now if the number professing to be of the anointed is increasing each year from 8,000 to 9,000 to 10,000 - can you explain how in the hell are they ever supposed to die off ?! The definition of generation is " 30 years " ! At the rate the Watchtower society is asking it's believers to accept their faulty view of what a " generation " is then their " generation " will never ever end. Thus the time of the end will go on forever.
Is it just me or is this the lamest, craziest view of things yet by this organization. Please stick some pins of verbal communication into me and tell me I wasn't raised in this crazy-a$$ organization ! I welcome all your thoughts, inspirations , and observations as always ! Do you agree that only mind controlled people could believe this craziness ? I look forward to hearing from you- tell me I'm not crazy ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper
Can You Stand One More Thread on " Generation "?- Check this Out- Weird !
by flipper 32 Replies latest jw friends
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flipper
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keyser soze
Are you questioning the wisdom of God's spirit-directed organization? Where else will you find such deep spiritual truths explained so clearly? A generation can last thirty years or it can go on forever. I believe that it is your haughty heart preventing you from discerning what Jehovah has so lovingly and simply revealed through his earthly channel.
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horrible life
Flipper, I am sure, when we read and follow the accompanying scriptures provided by the WTS, we will understand all of this "new light". I can't believe we missed this new information, all of this time, as it was written in the Bible, and that everybody else in the world, is blind, except the JW's.
Gives you warm tingles all over doesn't it?
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Homerovah the Almighty
I think Keyser says it right when your god's very own organization you have the power and capability to change the words in the bible and their definitions when you want to.
You know the funny thing is a lot of jws are not buying this change up and have dropped out just because of this particular spin.
Is it not obvious that the spin had to take place because the people that saw those things which took place in 1914 were just about all dead.
Why didn't this new light take place decades ago since it was a major part of their doctrinal preaching work.......ummmm
I know it was one of god's tests that he was trying on the flock.......yeh thats it
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restrangled
Flipper,
The entire thing is rediculous! A generation in broad terms generally means 100 years, ie a century.
There is one other date I have not seen discussed here recently. There was a down load for the May 15,2008 Watchtower. They kept harping on 1919 as the opening door for all the FDS. Am I nuts, or has that date never really been important before?
1919.....???
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Samuel Thorsen
Flipper!
Where else shall we go?
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justhuman
I have also read the issue of 15th of Feb Mr Flipper. There was a threat regarding this change in the forum, but it seems that WT with this change is clearly saving time(indefinite) because:
1. Door open in 2008(despite the fact that it was left closed for 78 years, and the thousand of articles stating that the door was close in 1931)with the door opened again(it was also closed in 1878 in Russells days) the annointed ones will go on for ever, because we have new ones coming in and young in age.
2. By opening the door WT cleverly ease's the doubts of the JW's for the annointed ones-why they don't become lesser, and defines the generation (again)claiming that they are the annointed. Having the new definition means that there will always be annointed, and is like telling the JW's that "shut up go and preach and bring more slaves to work for the multiinternational American Company Watchtower"...
But the generation has 2 ways to interpretate it:
1. 70-80 years that is the average lifetime of humans
2. 30 years
In both ways Jesus was correct because the end DID come for Jerusalim after 37 years when He gave the signs for the end...GB are just a banch of fools that they are stealing the lifes of millions of JW's. Blind guides leading blind people
peace Mr Flipper
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R.Crusoe
I wonder who the oldest chosen one wa in say 1915, and who the youngest chosen one was in 2008?
And how is it that Jesus only just let them in on this deal?
And how, if earlier anyone had mentioned it as a truth,with 1914Jesus being set up etc, they would be in trouble for apostacy teachings?
It's making me think they are about to steal someone elses dates for the age of Aquarius and say this can go on another century or whatever!
It would not surprise me in the least and then their organisation need not worry for years about the end scuppering all their followers!
Do you perceive a 1975 like change in the air ? as if they are prepared to lose some but are paving the way for even more naieve victims in the most distant parts of the Earth?
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megawatt
^ Good theorey
It's from my own experience, while serving this organization abroad seeing first hand how receptive people in rural areas can be. Basically, anything coming from your mouth is considered truth. This organization, knowing that numbers are lacking for the better part in "enlightened nations", I agree that more of an effort is being made outside.
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potleg
Their original explanation that the ones who saw 1914 would not die before the end made the most sense ... until they died!
The WT was WRONG WRONG WRONG. Most people at this point would recognize that they were not directed by God.
To counter this the WT now invents it's own definition of generation and claims "New Light" from god. Brilliant!
This makes all the dubs happy because they are back on "firm ground", god is still directing his org, all's well and that's what they want to hear. That's what they NEED to hear to make their live make sense. We all need a sense of certainty in life, unfortunately, JWs have surrendered their thinking and reasoning ability to the organization, they remind me of those little birds in a nest with eyes shut tight and mouths wide open, clamouring for worms.
The new light doctrine is THE most important doctrine of all because it allows the WT to shift in any direction it wants while still claiming gods backing. If they said god had shown them that a generation is 500 years long, who would the dubs believe? A man made dictionary or the spirit directed org? We all know the answer.
It's a case of the blind leading the blind. All you need is faith.