by Cygnus 13 Replies latest jw friends
Under the heading "Babylonia"
At first Nabuchodonosor II began a small guerilla warfare against Jerusalem; then, in 607 B.C., he dispatched a considerable army, and after a while began the siege in person.
Can any apostate tell me what's wrong with this quote?
It should have been listed under BALONEY??
Cygnus,
Mainly it's out of context I think;
Against the solemn
warning of Jeremias the Prophet, Jehoiakim refused tribute,
i.e. rebelled against Babylon. At first Nabuchodonosor II
began a small guerilla warfare against Jerusalem; then, in 607
B.C., he dispatched a considerable army, and after a while
began the siege in person. Jechonias, however, son of
Jehoiakim, who as a lad of eighteen had succeeded his father,
surrendered; 7000 men capable of bearing arms and 1000 workers
in iron were carried away and made to form a colony on a canal
near Nippur (the River Chobar mentioned in Ezechiel, i, 1),
and Zedekias was substituted for Jechonias as vassal King of
Juda.
Some ten years later Nabuchodonosor once more found himself in
Palestine. Hophra, King of Egypt, who had succeeded Necho II
in 589 B.C., had by secret agents tried to combine all the
Syrian States in a conspiracy against Babylon. Edom, Moab,
Ammon, Tyre, and Sidon had entered into the coalition, and at
last even Juda had joined, and Zedekias against the advice of
Jeremias, broke his oath of allegiance to the Chaldeans. A
Babylonian army began to surround Jerusalem in 587 B.C.. They
were unable to take the city by storm and intended to subdue
it by starvation. But Pharao Hophra entered Palestine to help
the besieged. The Babylonians raised the siege to drive the
Egyptians back; they then returned to Jerusalem and continued
the siege in grim earnest. On July the 9th, 586 B.C., they
poured in through a breach in the wall of Ezekias and took the
city by storm. They captured the flying Zedekias and brought
him before Nabuchodonosor at Riblah, where HIS CHILDREN WERE
SLAIN BEFORE HIM AND HIS EYES BLINDED. THE CITY WAS DESTROYED,
AND THE TEMPLE TREASURES CARRIED TO BABYLON. A VAST NUMBER OF
THE POPOLATION WAS DEPORTED TO SOME DISTRICTS IN BABYLONIA, a
miserable remnant only was allowed to remain under a Jewish
governor Godolias. When this governor was slain by a Jewish
faction under Ishmael, a fraction of this remnant, fearing
Nabuchodonosor's wrath, emigrated to Egypt, forcibly taking
Jeremias the Prophet with them.
the problem is that it is describing the initial assault on jerusalem in 605 or 'shortly after' 607, when jeconiah was captured. (jer 24:1) the final siege and destruction, i believe you will find in the very next paragraph, is dated at 587.
please dont tell me this is a quote cited in a WT publication in support of 607. is it?
mox
Maybe that 1914 stuff was right after all...haha!
ISP
Lionel,
Yes, you're correct. I had a JW in a chat room today use that very quote to defend the 607 chronology, saying if I had a problem with JWs using it, then I had a problem with the Catholics as well.
Moxy,
I think the 607 reference is a typo. It should be 597. The Catholic Encyclopedia isn't infallible!
thats interesting. i wonder where he got that from. im pretty sure the WT hasnt tried using this quote that way.
mox
Bloody hell you guys .. this changes everything .. where's my end times calculata .. let's see .. punch in 607BC >>fast forward>> 587BC >>fast forward>> 1975AD >>punch fred franz in>> ......1995 ooo that can't be right! what can it all mean?
And where exactly is this quote found in the Catholic Encyclopedia, anyone know?
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Hey Lionel,
Thats very interesting, thanks for putting up the whole quote for us so we don't read it out of context. Is the quote you posted from the Catholic Encyclopedia?
