Hey Stephanus, looks like Grout came and went.
I don't mind bulk ridicule from people who actually do stuff. Don't forget, I was an advocate of the NSW Sceptic Society a while back. Come down and see for yourself stephanus .. that'll be fun! LOL .. no joke .. you'll have some explain'n to do son .. ;)
cheers, unclebruce
PS: I've seen those TV trials and thats probably why i never tried it for myself. I used to think Randy the magician was great, now i know he only exposes fraudsters, a good service but one that hardly demolishes true science.