Deep Question

by THE_CHOSEN_ONE 8 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • THE_CHOSEN_ONE
    THE_CHOSEN_ONE

    Jesus with his sacrifed dead fulifies Jehovah's plan and destroys Satan 's plan.Why Satan has permit Izraelis to kill Jesus, for example if I have been on Satan 's place I will do this The Izraelis Ponti Pilat the Rome soldiers who were whipped and impaled Jesus were under my command I will simple order them to bow to Jesus and on Roman senat I will order to make Jesus Roman EMPIRE KING instead Cezar and with that Satan will outwitted Jehova or tricked Jehova 's plan.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Welcome.

    Leaving details aside, the basic answer in some early forms of the basic Christian narrative is that "victory" required fooling the enemy, hence incognito.

    Cf. 1 Corinthians 2:7f: "But we speak God's wisdom, secret and hidden, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age understood this; for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory."

  • THE_CHOSEN_ONE
    THE_CHOSEN_ONE

    You like to say that imperfect man is smarter than Satan?

  • serotonin_wraith
    serotonin_wraith

    I think this video will be helpful to you, THE_CHOSEN_ONE.

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  • Eyes Open
    Eyes Open

    This is actually something that I wondered about when I was a Witness. Unless Satan was incredibly stupid, he would have realised he was playing into Jehovah's hands.

    Ah well. I guess delusions of grandeur tend to stop you thinking clearly. Never mind Satan, old chap - at least you've got a good while left to play as Armageddon doesn't seem to be coming any time soon.

    LOL @ Sunday Hereos!

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos
    You like to say that imperfect man is smarter than Satan?

    First, please notice that "Satan" plays no role in the version of the "plot" I pointed to. "The rulers of this age" which are fooled into crucifying the "Lord of Glory" by hidden divine Wisdom are a rather different notion.

    Second, I don't see how "imperfect man" comes into the picture. Please explain.

  • real one
    real one

    God controls everything. Satan has limited powers. Don't think Satan didn't want to stop this event. I believe he is smart but he cannot go beyond what God allows. Like Jesus told Pilate you can only do what my Father allows.

  • Qcmbr
    Qcmbr

    I always wondered if the plan was a lot deeper than our traditional reading. What if the atonement is also about redeeming Satan and his followers.

  • THE_CHOSEN_ONE
    THE_CHOSEN_ONE

    Actually I know the answer.

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