Min, I was always respectful, and any committee I was on the questioning was always cut way short of what some of the friends experienced with elders getting all the gory details. I never put up with any of that crap.
But I do think in the minds of some elders, a hot sister was "asking" for it. My brother in law, an elder, even quoted that idiot judge who said an attractive woman in sexy clothing had "asked" to be raped. That attitude really pissed me off.
But I do think that it's an insane system that has you judging the sexual conduct of others when scripturally, we're all guilty of the same thing.
Tinker - Yeah. I've seen that happen.
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Having Sex With a Hot Sister
by Seeker4 22 Replies latest jw friends
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Seeker4
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SnakesInTheTower
wings:
how they would ask for details about the immorality. Like "did he touch you there?". Sicko stuff. I think the good looking sisters get a bad rap. The fat old sisters who can barely squeeze into their dress, every buldge showing, cleveage hanging out, somehow that is okay,
One of the last JCs I was on was a single divorced sister who got together with a worldly guy. She was NOT hot..she was huge... I was her Book Study Overseer, so she came to me one evening before the book study and confessed. I only asked enough questions to ascertain that pornea had been committed. Even if she had been a hottie, I would still have asked only the bare minimum questions.
I was appointed chairman of that committee (they didnt want to, but she trusted me so they had no choice)... the other 2 elders (both in their mid to late 50s) wanted to ask a bunch of the same questions I had asked her when she first came to me. I put a stop to that right away. I had filled them in prior and said there was no need to go into more detail than necessary, allow her what little dignity she had left. I mean, she barely had sex...and as soon as it started, she made the guy quit (I bet he was frustrated), but it was still what it was. She was given unannounced (aka "private") reproof.
Last I heard, she was back at it again, just hasnt gotten caught or confessed again. The weird thing was I had been told this huge sister (300#+ range) had a "thing" for me...I made sure word got back (even before this JC) that I was not reciprocating. Bet that was embarrasing for her to confess to an elder that she had a crush on.
Ironically, anytime a "hottie" sister was in for a JC for sexual immorality (with one exception), they wouldnt let me on the committee because I was a single brother and they wanted to protect me from any "pruerient" thoughts... LOL
What a load of hor$e$hit.... Its none of their damn business. There was one elder, regular pioneer, in his 50s, married...who was/is always hugging on the sisters..esp the younger ones.... yet, when I brought up that it might be uncomfortable for these sisters (I know, because they said so to me), I was told not to worry about it, that Brother SuperPioneerElder was just being "friendly" and that his hugs were "harmless." yet, he was busted for viewing online porn.... he never confessed until confronted and admitted that he wouldnt have if he hadnt been caught (idiot forgot to clear his browser history and cache).and he is still an elder/pioneer....guess he wasnt so "harmless" in his thoughts after all.
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Seeker4
Skyking, good to hear from you.
That was exactly the kind of questioning I would never put up with. It's absolutely unnecessary.
If they tried that today, I'd tear them a new one for sure!!
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Snakes....I almost edited to add that the fat old sisters who dressed creatively were some of my best friends. But I got distracted and didn't get it done.
I did see the hotties getting counsel, I always thought they were easy on the eyes. Have to appreciate a beautiful person who knows how to dress to show it off. Didn't you feel safe knowing they were protecting you from yourself? How thoughtful.
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Quirky1
Spiritually motivated irony...........What a concept!
Quirky1
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5go
Is spiritual incest.
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mind my own
I remember when I had my JC, the elders were asking really innappropriate questions, and really perverted. The details they were asking for made my skin crawl! I told them that I didn't think it was appropriate to ask for that kind of detail b/c when I first started talking I laid it all out on the table and I hadn't actually had sex. I mean, I told them what I had done in no uncertain terms and really, I didn't leave anything out. The one elder started yelling at me saying I was showing an unrepentant attitude and I had better watch it etc. That shut me up and I just answered all of their questions anyways despite the fact that alot of them had nothing to do with what I had done. I never could look at those elders in the eye again, I was really embarrased and felt violated. Gross. It makes me angry now, not embarrased.
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restrangled
Seeker....
This subject really ticks me off. When I was just 16, I was black mailed into having an "encounter" with a a guy from another hall who was on private reproof.....never knew him before, met at a JW party. (I was an elder's daughter, so was easily panicked about any situation)
I had no idea at the time, I had very low self esteem, but I guess I was considered one of those hotties. When I refused to go along with the situation after a few times, the fellow ran to his elders and said I had seduced him. Those elders went to my elders, and guess what....I was considered more at fault. The details asked were so disgusting I still cringe when I think of them. Like I said, I was 16..... he was 21 or 22.
I was DF'd very quickly. One of the guys on the JC was having an affair with a young woman I babysat for in the hall. Another was a wife abuser, and one was a 20 something straight out of Bethel. Of course those on my committee were not found out until many years later.
Apparently I looked "too" much for anyone to deal with, so it was easy to consider me the more guilty party. I just remember feeling so alone in the organization wanting to meet new people and make friends. I had lots of friends in high school but wasn't allowed to socialize after school.
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OnTheWayOut
Restrangled, this is what happens when men are not properly trained and the
organization has them take over your entire life. They pry and prod where they
don't belong.The organization itself is suspicious of all the members, assuming they have
sex on their minds all the time, and the attitude prevails over many of the JC's.I mean, how many religions are telling members what kind of sex between
a husband and wife is acceptable? How many religions try to kick teens out
for not being sorry and kissing asses after they engaged in heavy petting? -
Mickey mouse
I remember an elder who was notorious for asking for too many juicy details at judicial committees. Turned out later he was a paedophile. I wonder whether he got his kicks from the details?