What's Your View Of Jehovah's Witnesses As Individual Persons?

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  • Terry
    Terry

    The way you get a good club, school, organization or society is to attract good people.

    Jehovah's Witnesses care about important things which, they feel, lead to a better life and a good society.

    So, that is a given.

    The JW's are as good as the people they attract.

    If that is all there was to it--who would have any problem with them at all?

    But, no. It gets more complicated.

    The huge, gaping flaw in good people who become Jehovah's Witnesses is the DISINFORMATION they are given.

    Instead of being educated and informed they are systematically emptied of information, data, and real world premises and concepts.

    Into the resulting void a rich stew of disinformation, propaganda and orthodoxy is poured and it hardens into concrete.

    It makes their head hard as a rock.

    Determination becomes adamant stubborness parading as righteousness.

    The good things in this world are snuffed out by tightly shutting their eyes to them.

    Only the negative things are endlessly repeated until a gloom of impending doom extinguishes any hope.

    Without hope for the real world an over arching fear comes stealing in.

    That is when the Watchtower Governing Body indoctrination snaps the trap shut on them!

    One tiny ray of light is left for them to grope toward ...holding each other's trembling hand as they march sullenly toward that nightlight of perfect obedience and unquestioning compliance.

    The good is changed into uselessness.

    The JW's are really not much good to anybody (including themselves) because they don't live in the real world.

    They don't get a decent education, they don't learn important skills, and they don't create things for the next generation (or their own children) to use as a launching pad for progress and purposeful living.

    JW's are living vacuums that suck the life out society and implode into numbing repetitious longing for the utter destruction of mankind.

    As individuals they don't really exist. They become the flavor of the soup they are but an ingredient inside. To escape utter oblivion of identity, it becomes necessary for JW's to live a double life by sneaking around and snatching a few crumbs of solace with forbidden movies, books, acquaintances and conversations on the sly. Grumbling, gossiping and complaining become the only venting valve of individuality left to them to stave off insanity or suicidal depression.

    Nothing admirable in allowing yourself and your family to sink into the quicksand of cult hopelessness like this!

    Ultimately, these persons who started off as GOOD people become husks of good people. They lose intellectual honesty. They are mere things with movement which appears human. They become robots of ideology feigning humanity.

    I don't wish it on anybody!

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Some of the best examples of human life that I know are JW's, as are some of the worst.

    In that way they mimic the rest of humanity, apart of course from claiming that they are much, much, better people than the rest of the world and believing that everybody else deserves to die because they are not living as they do. ;)

    HS

  • primitivegenius
    primitivegenius

    Do you think they make the best parents?

    when i was growing up (teenage years aside) i thought my parents were doing everything right......... then later when i became deprogramed it was another story. My father was and IS the PO..... so he had time for EVERYONE ELSE. he worked his 40 hours plus and studied for all the meetings and then was on call 24/7 and him and mom had it out plenty of times they would rather we conviently forgot. she some how thought that she had the right to demand some time to herself or with the entire family.......... go figure. my dad was as good of an elder as you could ask for as far as i can tell........ considering he was and remains totally brainwashed. he still had priority issues, which he muddled through as best he could.

    the idea that jws want you to think is they are the best and no one could ever be better..... which is tottally bulls*** but i did have parents that tried as hard as they could.

    The best children?

    Hell no, this one is a complete crap shoot. there were witness kids i knew that were hellspawn and others that were angels............ no different than any other religion. depends upon personality and upbringing.

    The best workers?

    again it varies, you hear people makeing comments about others that either this race or that race has only two types of people......... hard working and lazy. what these fools are seeing is the fact that in every race or organization or whatever you get both types. ive seen some that burned the candle at both ends to try and make that low wage stretch to care for their family. and ive seen some with their hands out begging for help when in all actuality they made more per family member than half the cong did. i tried to be.

    The most moral?

    this is a huge laugh here, i have known tons of jws who viewed it as..... sin........ penalty........sin..... penalty....... yeah ok i want to have sex with her............ a year disfellowshiped........... yeah worth it. so its only those who hold themselves truely to a higher standard that are more moral........ not anyone who is a jw. besides everyone has their own weaknesses. some drink and use drugs.... others sleep around.. others steal or lie...... some delude themselves and keep their heads buried in the sand.......... which sin is worse? not for me to say.

    jws have to make up an endless pile of bulls*** to keep their drones in line. they gotta say that "were the only ones" and that we have the "truth" no one else has a world wide organization , hahahha yeah right. ive been to five or six churches that have world wide contacts that they support and who actually send aid to those other countries........ where as jws only fund their branches. regardless all these lies they tell their flock keeps them beliveing that they are superior to everyone......... how else can you get someone to suffer with a minimum wage job endlessly expecting to have it all after armageddon............ and people think walmart screws people by paying them to starve........ they got nothing on the dubs.

  • parlay
    parlay

    To a greater or lesser extent they are a reflection of the organization.........nuff said.

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    What do you view of Jehovah’s witnesses as individual persons?

    A true believer is a pathology not person.

    The others are 2 faced, or just getting along to get along if you will.

    as to the "best" the answers are all no.

    But I did here Witness make the best lovers. So I guess that must be true.

  • minimus
    minimus

    I know a lot of JWs that are extremely "horny".

  • drew sagan
    drew sagan

    Folks is folks.

    The social environment of the Watchtower movement is an extreme one, and I do believe that it can really bring out the worst in people many times over.

  • Hope4Others
    Hope4Others
    The best workers?

    In this dept, I agree workers are workers, but as an employer, many feel that as a fellow witness you will understand, we have been left

    holding the bag, when assemblies, etc came up. When anything came up jw wise they were gone, I of course now do not employ jw's

    they were just too hard to deal with. My best workers are in the "World" so to speak and the most dependable. And we get along very well.

    I have often sent gift baskets in appreciation for their efforts, it makes them feel part of the team. The better you treat them the more

    willing anyone is to go that extra mile. Myself included.

    The best children?

    As mentioned kids are kids, Jw kids tend to sneak around a lot, just like the next kid because they are stifled by the system and not aloud to do much of anything. Because it is

    "Worldly".

    Just my thoughts!

    h4o

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I joined the JW cult thinking the JWs were better than "worldly" people. I was wrong. I found them to be the most dishonest, lying, thieving, backbiting and lazy people I ever met. I had no use for them when I was one. After 20 years among them, I can count on one hand the number of JWs whose existance I would acknowledge today.

    W

  • minimus
    minimus

    When I was an elder, I realized how many teens were fooling around. Who could blame them? They couldn't date unless they were "ready for marriage". Many of the youths were good little Dubbies at home but once out, they let loose, big time!

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