"Wait On Jehovah"

by silentlambs 26 Replies latest jw friends

  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    Wait on Jehovah, is an interesting terminology. It is used basically to stop an action from taking place. The inference would be that you should leave it in God’s hands and in His due time He will maneuver things to address the matter. Many times examples are cited when it appears almost divine intervention caused an evil to be corrected, thus reinforcing the directive. I recall at bethel a story about a brother who was a thief. He was at bethel for several years and was never caught. When he left he asked to move to where the need was great as a pioneer. Bethel obliged him with an assignment in California. In the course of his taking things at bethel he happened to obtain an unusual ring. It was custom made and so he decided to wear it when he arrived in his new congregation. Can you guess where this is going? Yes, this congregation had given that ring as a going away present to a brother who was leaving for bethel a few years earlier. The ring was custom made by a local jeweler and was one of a kind. The thief was discovered and promptly DF. This story seems to give the impression that God offered some type of divine intervention to discipline this wrongdoer. Thus by waiting on Jehovah God moved things to reveal the matter.

    Is this the way it really works? Over the years I have known many men in high places who were outright evil and did so many things to hurt innocent people. What is Jehovah waiting for? A district convention overseer who offered an apology for the dirty things he had done to my family and myself approached me a few years ago. From the telling of outright lies to writing letters in a negative way to prevent getting assignments or privileges that made him feel threatened. He cried and asked for forgiveness for ten years of backstabbing. While I politely accepted his apology, I have yet to see Jehovah take any action to deal with the wrong committed. Is that the way of Jehovah, to take out an occasional thief but leave the lying hypocrites alone? When you consider this matter with regard to any mistake someone in authority within the organization may make, what most often is the direction? “Wait on Jehovah.” If you refuse to take that admonition then you can quickly be accused of being “self willed” or presumptuous or running ahead of God’s arrangement. When you consider how this is used it puts forth the thought that “wait on Jehovah“ is simply an excuse to let wrongdoing remain hidden. If you are on the outs with the elders or the society, you will often find they can find no basis to “wait on Jehovah” but instead act with quick and decisive action. This often happens in the face of lack of evidence or outright mishandling of judicial matters. When the wronged party complains, they are admonished by management to “wait on Jehovah”. How many people have been disfellowshipped for stepping up to right injustice and then were charged for causing “division” in the congregation?

    It brings me to the conclusion that to “wait on Jehovah” is purely an excuse to let someone get away with something wrong. The Society uses this at a moments notice to stop persons from taking proper action. When you bring the context of child molestation into the matter it offers opportunity for a wicked outcome. Many victims have been told to “wait on Jehovah” when it came to taking legal action or reporting matters to protect others in the congregation. When brothers call in to the legal department for direction to report molestation to the police, they are often admonished (if where they are located is not an absolute reporting state) to “wait on Jehovah”. In several cases the child molester went on to hurt more children while everyone was “waiting on Jehovah” to offer divine intervention. Is this the way we should believe God operates? Is this a case of “time and unforeseen occurrence befalling us all?” Often Jehovah is compared to a loving parent. If we were to use that analogy, suppose you as a parent were to see your young child playing close to a busy street. Knowing they could be in grave danger what would your course of action be?

    1. Move immediately to protect the child.
    2. Wait for the neighbors to do something.
    3. Wait on Jehovah

    Of the three courses of action, which would prove you to be the more incompetent as a parent? Would it not be number three? To take it one step further, if the child were to be injured by a passing car and you went before a judge and gave the excuse, “Your Honor, I was waiting on Jehovah to take action and I did not want to appear presumptuous.” What do you think would be the judgment of the matter? The laws of common decency would no doubt hold you responsible for your actions and offer sanction. Do you think it would make it any less serious if the parent said, “ The elders told me to “wait on Jehovah” and that is why I did not do anything to help the child?” It would seem the penalty would now involve more people for being morally and ethically deficient.

    This compares well with the child molestation issue among Jehovah’s Witnesses. The almighty creator does not want anyone to wait on him if it involves harming children. It appears this is a simple misplaced directive used as a control mechanism to prevent people who see injustice from doing anything. It is self-serving for the leadership of the WT organization to try and use the almighty creator as a basis to protect pedophiles. How far off are they from Jerry Falwell using the 911 disaster as a basis to say God was mad a people. It to was simply self-serving. If you were God how would you deal with men such as this? Men who allow children to be hurt, protect child molesters, and use God to scare innocents into doing their bidding. If you could think of a word to describe men such as this, what would they be? Scum, lying hypocrites, snakes, wicked, evil, corrupt, iniquitous, rotten, dishonest, worthless, my be a few words to express how God must view them. How could these men be viewed as having honor or integrity? How could they be trusted to give the right directives in other areas of life? If they say they prayed about it and God directed them, how do we know it is not just another “wait on Jehovah” self-serving protect the company idea?

    I read with interest the local paper today where it offered information regarding the Billy Graham Ministries. Of particular note was the total revenues taken in on an annual basis. As many may know BGM offers food and charity around the world to those in need. He is one of the most well know evangelist in the world. What are his annual revenues? $127 million with assets of $189 million. This would appear to be a substantial amount, yet when you consider they maintain a payroll for 642 people within the organization you can see a certain amount of this money goes to paychecks of organization workers. If you compare that figure with the $951 million in revenue annually that the Watchtower organization takes in the USA market. WT has no payroll and all full time volunteer workers are required to take a vow of poverty. The assets of WT will no doubt number in the billions. It would appear the Watchtower organization could teach Billy Graham a thing or two about how to make money with zero charity work for those in need. Does this mean that Jehovah is blessing WT because they have so much money? If so then the Mormons who have $50 billion in liquid assets would appear to have the greater blessing from God.

    So what do we do? Wait on Jehovah for the answer? How about wait on Allah? Wait on Mohammad? Wait on Zeus? Wait on an earthworm? The point would be DO NOT WAIT! If something is wrong or a child is being put in danger, honor and integrity demands you take appropriate action to protect the innocent. If someone tries to pull the asinine expression of “wait on Jehovah” out, you tell him or her to go jump in the lake. You will be happier with yourself if you do and if God looks with favor on anyone it will certainly have to be those who do what is ethically and morally right by standing up for what is right.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Bravo!!! Way to tell 'em. At least earthworms bring up the dirt. Does jehovah?? History has answered this question many times over.

    SS

  • Simon
    Simon

    What the people fail to remember is that in the bible, when something was wrong someone got up off their backside and DID something about it - running tent-pegs through people for instance (don't ya' just love the bible)

    If Jehovah was going to do anything it would have to be through someone taking some action so why are they so against it when this happens?

  • BoozeRunner
    BoozeRunner

    Wait on Jehovah is certainly an EXCUSE for inaction-either to protect guilty ones, or simply to be lazy and cowardly.

    Isa. 59:16 (& the surrounding verses[I think]) show how Jehovah feels when those with the responsibility and opportunity to right wrongs deliberately fail to act.

    Isa.59 Verses 11 to 16
    [11] We all growl like bears,
    we moan and moan like doves;
    we look for justice, but there is none;
    for salvation, but it is far from us.
    [12] For our transgressions are multiplied before thee,
    and our sins testify against us;
    for our transgressions are with us,
    and we know our iniquities:
    [13] transgressing, and denying the LORD, and turning away from following our God, speaking oppression and revolt,
    conceiving and uttering from the heart lying words.
    [14] Justice is turned back,
    and righteousness stands afar off;
    for truth has fallen in the public squares, and uprightness cannot enter.
    [15] Truth is lacking, and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey.
    The LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no justice.
    [16] He saw that there was no man,
    and wondered that there was no one to intervene; then his own arm brought him victory, and his righteousness upheld him.

    [16] He saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no one to intervene; then his own arm brought him victory, and his righteousness upheld him.
    Why would Jehovah wonder that there was no one intervening? Because these were HIS PEOPLE!!! He had persons in positions of responsibilty and authority to handle such matters. He would not wonder about "pagans" abandoning justice-their very nature described in the Bible make it clear that they held to different standards than those laid out for Isreal.

    Bible, Revised Standard Version
    The Revised Standard Version of the Bible is copyright © National Council of Churches of Christ in America and distributed to registered users (see User Agreement) with their kind permission. The HTI is grateful to NCC and the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Computer Analysis of Texts (CCAT) for their permission to provide this WWW-accessible version.

    Feel free to look this scripture up in the NWT also-I believe the language is even clearer.

    Props to my brother WORF for bringing this scripture to my attention on H2O a coupla years ago.

    Boozy

  • DazedAndConfused
    DazedAndConfused

    am going to bear more in this post than I have in any/all posts thus far. Waiting on Jehovah. What a big fat stinking lie that is!!! (3 times for emphasis) I was married at the ripe old age of 17. Yep, my parents signed for this to happen. After all.............he is such a pillar. It wasn't until years later that I found out that "one" elder approached my parents to tell them what a mistake this was, BEFORE they signed.

    Anyway, 5 months into the marraige................he shoved me. Not necessarily bad, considering the schedule he kept. Up at 3 am, to work by 4 am and not home until around 6-8 pm. At that point I thought it was a normal reaction to a lack of sleep and a demanding work schedule. But it did not stop at that. Over the years I experienced verbal, physical and sexual abuse from this man. He never became a Servant or an Elder while we were together.

    Verbal:

    Always able to "explain' away anything he said. Quite a coniver he was! So he could say things in the meanest way possible (and the point was taken by the words and by the way it was said) but in a way so that if it were questioned later................BY THE WORDS SPOKEN, could be explained away.

    For 10 long years he blamed me for the death of our first child. Long story. He was even told by the Dr attending our son that it was NOT my fault. He still believed it.

    Physical:

    The man repeatedly hit me. Punches, slaps, etc...............even within 2 weeks of having a c-section for our first child. He would take hammers to my head and threaten to kill me. He even hit me one time with a childs broom that left an ugly bruise. One person saw it and I lied to cover it up. I didn't fool her.

    Sexual:

    This is a good one. A few years before I left this degenerate he would force alcohol down my throat, to the point of choking, because he knew I would do anything he wanted. Just before I left him he would come to me because he had found the "right" person to have a 3-some with us. Or I remember him going all over town trying to find the Playboy that had the Jackson girl in it. He tried to convince me that it was ok to go to a strip show (unusual for the town we were in) He would come home smelling of vagina and force me to go down on him. He tried to get others to have sex with him while he looked on................the list goes on.

    Anyway, I finally told the CO the last time he tried to kill me. He (the CO) sat there with the most disgusted look on his face and said that he (my ex) was lower than a dog for what he did. Priveleges were taken away. Just before the CO's visit again in 6 months one of the elders (who my ex had something on) came to our house and asked my ex (not me) if things were better. Yes? Ok, you have your priveleges back. He stated that it was supposed to be a committee thing but his coming to the house would suffice. Ugh!!!

    For many of the years that I was in the Borg I tried to get the Brothers to listen but no one would. In fact at one meeting one of the Elders leaned back and looked at one of the other elders in the eye and said (about what I was accusing) ' I don't believe it! ' Needless to say, I was left out in the cold because they backed the male in this situation.

    To make a long stopry short.....we divorced, I lost the children, and he remarried (a newly reinstated sister, and I mean within 6 months) and he became a Servant and was urged to accept Eldership.

    Wait on Jehovah, right!!!!!!

  • DazedAndConfused
    DazedAndConfused

    ugh, I really need to read my posts BEFORE I officially post them. I wrote "He tried to get others to have sex with him while he looked on" Obviously it should hve bee "He tried to get others to have sex with ME while he looked on" sheesh

  • Thomas Poole
    Thomas Poole

    I am sorry for what you have been through. No wonder you are so sensitive to straight talk.

    What have you done to replace the past?

    In Christ

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    Maybe Jehovah is acting...through you, Silentlambs.

    Just a thought.

  • Judith
    Judith

    Hi Simon.

    Do you have the name of the person in the bible who ran a tent peg through someone's head?

    JBB

  • Pathofthorns
    Pathofthorns

    Nice post.

    It is always about either justifying inactivity, or it is about propping up this organization's "all new light must come from the faithful slave" policy.

    Any idea or suggestion has to go through much red tape before it gets to the top to be evaluated and by the time it gets to be inacted in the local congregation, months or even years have gone by.

    In the meantime bad policies, such as child molestation, remain in effect, thereby causing harm to more people. The system by its design discourages ideas and suggestion, and of those that do put forth such, most can't make it past the roadblocks to the top.

    "Wait on Jehovah" is one of those frustrating phrases that anger me, because it really is about waiting on individuals and a system that is so weighed down by it's own arrogance that it refuses to take anything seriously until it becomes a crisis.

    Life is too precious to "wait on Jehovah" sometimes.

    Path

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