When I was a JW I didn't even question that the Noah's ark story might not be true. I didn't realise that it wasn't achievable for a handful of people to gather literally millions of animals - two of each kind - and fit them into a boat where they would all survive for many days. I didn't think about the fact that if the highest mountain was covered with water then how could plant life like trees and flowers come to exist again, especially so soon after, with the raven grabbing an olive leaf was it? There are many many other reasons why it just is so truly unbelievable. My question is, what ways do JW's justify it to themselves that it is true? I can't remember how I did as I left quite young.
Noah's ark - Can't believe I once actually thought it was true
by sam_sane_now 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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BFD
I had a feeling after Wuz posted the cover of that WT we'd be seeing new newbies! I won't even imagine what the text was like. lol
Welcome!
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Low-Key Lysmith
This was actually the one Bible parable that really got my mind working. I just couldn't wrap my head around that one either. The one thing that really made me wonder was "where did all the water go?" All that fresh water would have diluted the salt water of the oceans, killing pretty much all of the sea life. That's just one example. The inconsistencies are pretty much endless.
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White Dove
Yes, fresh water diluting salt water and killing all of the fish. Yet another thing to use to explain the impossibility of the flood, besides the 900-1000 degree Farenheit atmosphere within that all encompassing water canopy, just like Venus. Venus only has a cloud and look what it's doing to the surface!
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White Dove
That kind of temperature on Venus isn't only because it's closer to the sun, either. That cloud definately has something to do with it.
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BFD
LOL @ Homer!
What's with the Jimmy Buffet parrot?
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marmot
The flood issue is what pushed me out of the org. I kept looking for answers or, at the very least, semi-plausible explanations to questions like "Why are there only koalas and platypuses (platypi?) in Australia?" and "If there was a global flood, how come there is no geological evidence for it?"
Even when I was a kid there was always something about the Noah story that made a little voice in the back of my head say "Something's not right here."
Yet there are otherwise very intelligent Witnesses who still doggedly assert that a massive deluge wiped out all plant, animal, and human life on earth except for a small group of survivors in a fetid waterlogged wooden box just 4000 years ago. My uncle, for instance, has a PhD in psychology and is a gilead graduate but he refuses to talk to me anymore because I voiced my doubts to him about the flood. He refused to examine the scientific evidence I was pointing him towards and simply labels me an apostate.
I spoke with close friends, elders and my dad when I was still trying to come to grips with my wavering faith and the best line they could come up with was "wait on Jehovah". Well, I faded 8 months ago and the society finally released a new WT with a question from readers on Noah's flood and it completely ignores any of the scientific issues that conflict with the flood. Instead we're told to believe that the flood happened because the Bible says it happened and crams this line of circular reasoning down readers throats, leaving no room for dissent.
I still wouldn't be surprised if more people left over this issue, though. I know there are Bethel lurkers who read this stuff, so take heed. -
*Incubus
If your having trouble swallowing the crap just pray for faith or some b.s.Cant have people thinking logically.
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garybuss
Think this one over . . .
Exodus Chapter 12
37 The Israelites journeyed from Rameses to Succoth. There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children 38 Many other people went up with them, as well as large droves of livestock, both flocks and herds.
Biggest Mathematical Miracle in the World
Moses and his people were in the desert, but what was he going to do with them? They had to be fed, and fed is what he did, according to the Quartermaster General in the Army.
It is reported that Moses would have to have had 1500 tons of food each day. Do you know that to bring that much food each day, two freight trains, each a mile long, would be required!
Besides you must remember, they were out in the desert, so they would have to have firewood to use in cooking the food. This would take 4000 tons of wood and a few more freight trains, each a mile long just for one day.
And just think, they were forty years in transit.
And oh yes! They would have to have water. If they only had enough to drink and wash a few dishes, it would take 11,000,000 gallons each day, and a freight train with tank cars, 1800 miles long, just to bring water!
And then another thing! They had to get across the Red Sea at night.
Now if they went on a narrow path, double file, the line would be 800 miles long and would require 35 days and nights to get through. So, there had to be a space in the Red Sea, 3 miles wide so that they could walk 5000 abreast to get over in one night.
But then, there is another problem.
Each time they camped at the end of the day, a campground two-thirds the size of the state of Rhode Island was required, or a total of 750 square miles long...think of it! This space just for nightly camping.