never!! (for a first offense )
if we were going over the same ground over and over and over.... strike 3 was a whuppin...... which entailed a wooden cooking spoon, in the bathroom (for privacy, because i believe that punishment, as opposed to discipline, was a private matter between me and the offender).... usually it was one or two "whacks" on the fully clothed rump ...... cooperation usually meant one.... making a fuss got ya 2
unlike my upbringing, which included being beaten with a riding crop by an alcoholic mother, i was determined to use a measured, considered display of intention..... it was never out of control