Self -Employed or Otherwise Gainfully Employed - Gas Prices Eating You Up? (page 8)

sammielee24

Hey..one thing I hadn't thought of until I saw it in the news for today - the cost of diesel for the school buses. Apparently, with it doubling, it is eating into the budget big time and if nothing eases up - they may have to cut back on the number of stops, the number of days or something drastic like laying off teachers or cutting more programs. I hadn't thought of the school buses....think of the impact on parents and kids if the kids have to stay home more often cos that leads into child care increases and all that good stuff. We were talking to one of our previous neighbours and he told us that they are getting soaked with propane prices. We were getting charged almost $10.00 a day for a tiny little place and couldn't afford it then- now he said the propane has doubled in price which means that we would be paying over $400.00 a month for just propane on a 900 sq foot, well insulated house. sammieswife.

flipper

SAMMIELEES WIFE- Wow ! $400.00 for propane on a 900 sq.ft. house ? And I was moaning and groaning 5 years ago when I had to pay $270.00 to fill up a propane tank on a 1800 sq. ft. house I lived in in the Sierras near Tahoe ! The prices are getting insane ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

barry

Buy oil shares thats the only answer. Also motors can be converted to lpg and the cost per litre or gallon is half

Cowboy

Never mind the $4.69 road diesel for my pickup. I filled up a tractor this morning for $420 - that'll run me about 2 days spreading the $900 - $1000 a ton fertilizer (3+ times what it cost a year ago) to put on grass for cows that are worth less than they've been in several years... I won't be able to do that for long, and I'm not the only one.

Fuel prices are just the tip of the iceberg - not saying that tip's not sharp enough to do plenty of damage by itself. There are lots of factors blowing up this oil price bubble - OPEC, speculators, oil companies, etc..., but supply of raw crude isn't one of 'em. U.S. refinery capacity is, though...

Oh, btw, hey y'all - long time no see.

flipper

BARRY- Buy oil shares? Yeah, I guess that would help. But converting the motor on a car might be a more permanent solution.

COWBOY- Thanks for replying. Good to see you post ! I can only imagine how hard that is dealing with your cattle, trying to offset how much you invest in fertilizer and filling up your tractor with fuel - I don't know how you do it . Good luck guy, Peace out, Mr. Flipper

compound complex

Greetings, Mr. Flipper:

I don't have to tell you what I pay for gas. Yesterday I decided to fill up - which I NEVER do - but I'm going out of town and hate doing a dribble here and a dribble there. It was $42.99 for 10 gallons at our almost cheapest spot. The lanes were filling up and as I tried to maneuver into place, a fellow takes my place. I asked him politely to move forward, which he readily agreed to. I still needed to do a little jockeying and so a kid pulls into my new spot. No feathers flew, but I wondered if this is a wave of the future. I ended up getting an even better spot and was actually in and out in ten minutes.

It seems best to fill up whenever possible and avoid the daily hassle.

My neighbor told me that when he was gassing up a guy in a honkin' Hummer put in only $10!

Yes, it hurts ... I stay home days at a time and am grateful that I'm getting more work in my 'hood.'

CoCo

donkey

I'm glad. Gas needs to go to $10 / gallon. Until there is discomfort or disruption there will be no change. We need to change to energy sources that are controlled by us and that are non polluting.

But another question:

Everyone is so upset with the oil companies. They do not set the price of oil. The price of oil is a function of the free market. So are you pissed off with the free market then? Should we have a communist or a socialist system?

nelly136

http://www.petrolprices.com/fuel-tax.html this is a little out of date but it gives an idea, its not the actual price of oil, its how much the uk government shove on in tax that has made the prices so extortionate over here.

PrimateDave

The illusion of vast undeveloped U.S. oil resources

How Will Gas Prices affect the Blue Collar/Poor

A quote from this blog:

The Blue Collar/Poor View: There are three main views.

1.Gas prices are so high because corporations are doing it to make a profit. They do not understand economics and that the ways to make a profit are through cheaper machinery, cheaper labor, advertising, and coupons. It is absurd to raise the price of a product by 100 percent in one year. That will only cause a decrease in sales. Most blue collar/poor have no idea how capitalism works.

2.There is oil in Alaska and in the gulf and “tree-huggers” will not let us use it. Even though the science shows that there isn't that much oil there and it is expensive to get it out and refine.

3.I have heard many white males say that it is because of the blacks in Nigeria and the Arabs who hate American freedom. (The racist theory of oil prices.)....

.....Now we have to understand this first: The blue collar/poor do not “care” why the gas prices are so high. What I mean by “care” is, when someone “cares” about something they learn about it.

sammielee24

Everyone is so upset with the oil companies. They do not set the price of oil. The price of oil is a function of the free market. So are you pissed off with the free market then? Should we have a communist or a socialist system

Yeah...it's called regulations. You know - keeping an eye one what people are doing in the 'free market' so that they can't manipulate that market causing collapse of an economy and a nation. That's what happened in the financial end of it all and why you have the mess you have now - deregulation. Any bank that used a loop hole to give a dishwasher who 'claimed' to make $15,000 a month to buy a half a million dollar house, who did not request financial information from the applicant to back up the claim and who then immediately, turned around and bundled that known risky/bad loan into a fund that they then sold to another financial institute...we'd call that fraud at any other time of the day but now we just shrug our shoulders and say 'oh well'.

Regulations in the oil industry were collapsed and loopholes created by the Bush administration. Let's be realistic - all the big guys that lost their money on housing investments are making it back now by speculating in an unregulated oil market. Wasn't it Nixon who first said the USA should be energy independent in 10 years?.....what happened? Leaders are voted in to do what??? Lead. They obviously don't.

A totally free market without regulation is a door wide open to greed and corruption. It doesn't work except for those 1% at the very top who run the show.

You hope it keeps going up to cause people pain? I'm glad I don't live in your world - ...sammieswife.

Self -Employed or Otherwise Gainfully Employed - Gas Prices Eating You Up?

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