by ashitaka 21 Replies latest jw friends
Do you have an answering machine? I put mine to good use to screen calls. I also have caller ID so that if I don't wish to speak to the caller, I don't answer the phone.
Try it. You'll like it. Make them talk to you/her on your terms.
Seize the day, and put the least possible trust in tomorrow. - Horace
I have learned to live each day as it comes and not to borrow trouble by dreading tomorrow. - Dorothy Dix
******************My father was a wretched man who was empowered by the JW's to beat the shit out of me every nite.***********
I'm sorry Ash. The children seem to be the most helpless victums of the WTS. Not to say your Dad isn't personally responsible for what he did to you, because he is.
I can't blame you for all your anger. I have so much of it myself. I'm trying so hard to work on it but it isn't easy.
I feel for you and your wife. Wishing your wife's parents away and their actually going away are two different things. You two need to stick together and you will get through it.
Have you thought about relocating? Far,far away from them and the JWs that you know? If possible?
Just a thought
Sunny
PS. I pritty much hate um too...."they don't destroy familys" what a laugh!
minds are like parachutes--they only function when open.
Moving stuff ashitaka,
Weve never been JWs, but an evil thing is done to a loved one of mine everyday because she isn't, so I've glimpsed at how utterly outraged it can make you. Try and make sure she understands that they are not christian, nor do they speak in anyway for God, but rather, are the very ones that cause God anger.
Christ came and befriended all sorts, hung out with publicans, prostitutes, taxcollectors, lepers, and specially cared for sinners and poor, and so on - street people and the common, I suppose. There seems to be only two types that absolutely pissed Him off - the smug and content self-righteous well dressed scripture readers who rested on their own idea of worthy deeds (all the while accusing) - and also those who kept their goods from the poor, though maybe the latter didn't cause quite the outrage.
Nevertheless, the WT society reflect both.
Bang
You also need to keep in mind that to "hate" JWs could be somewhat extreme when you put in perspective that they are just doing what they have been programmed to do.
It is much like getting mad at a computer that does what it has been designed to do. Their actions are simply a reflex. It is the system that is flawed and your anger should be toward those that have designed it and who have the power to change it, but do not.
You cannot really beat the system, but you can keep it from controlling and affecting your life if you understand how it works. You can remain a witness, thus keeping any contacts you would like to, while at the same time legally insisting that the elders and circuit overseer leave you alone for a while.
Path
Hi ashitaka
Sounds like you have a reason to not be shunned. Sorry. You are in a tough spot.
Hope it all goes well and may all your wishes come true:-)
gb
I think you need to find a peaceful place with all this. Don't forget practically everyone here has suffered a great deal at the hands of JWs. We've all felt as you do at one time or another. I've been disfellowshipped for no good reason, for over 20 yrs. I blame my mother's breast cancer and my father's massive heart attack on JWs - because it broke them having to decide between me and my JW siblings. However a friend once told me that I have to think about all the good things in my life that HAVE gone well. How blessed I am that my husband came out of the Org with me and how I got out before they had a chance to stuff up my kids (hey that's my job!). They say the best form of revenge is to live well. I wish this for you. Certainly as time passes their ability to hurt you gets less. It never goes away completely. But no one has a perfect life. Try to learn to accept that JWs are your cross to bear.
Marilyn
Thanks for the responses, guys. I read them all. I only get angry when it is happening...the same thing over and over. I do hate them, which is a shame, but I do.
You're right, my father is personally responsible, but I don't think he would have been half as bad if he wasn't a JW. He simply wouldn't have had the fuel for the fire.
I do have caller ID and voicemail, but now and again, we have to contact them. My wife has several siblings who we don't want to abandon.
I don't know, I feel bad to forgive them, and bad to hate them. They haven't ruined my life, just made it immeasurably harder than it should have been.
ashi
Now you guys can wash your mouth with soap. And wash your brains too.
this is my first post on this site
*applause*
all i can say is that i hear ya on the hypocrisy part. My biggest thing right now is the scripture they use all the time, about how fornicators and greedy people will not inherit the kingdom. So quick to pounce on the fornication part, yet nobody ever talks about greediness, now do they? Yet, it's on the same level as fornication. What's so hypocritical about that is this: I have a family member that I loaned a pretty sizable sum of money to 2 years ago, after I left the organization. Granted he hasn't returned one penny, yet every time I see him, he has new clothes, a new video camera, new everything. He has an excellent job as well - has he made one effort to repay what he PROMISED he would? No. Yet, he comes to me, trying to convince me I need to come back because I'm the one in spiritual despair. WHATEVER! Anyways, yeah...i'm pretty upset these days...i look forward to reading more posts here - it helps knowing others share my same frustrations.
Take care,
Jason
Nice to see you here Jason. Stay while. I thought posting here was silly when I first found it, but it's nice to come here and talk about things once in awhile.
I agree with your point; greediness is a big part of the org, but it plays out in different ways. I see it in the hours they try to achieve. Getting hours is their type of monetary system. The more hours, the more 'spiritual bounty' they achieve. It's sickening how they can ignore their family, yet consider themselves spiritually advanced.
And to Sir Fred, I wash and wash, but I can't get good things out of my head.....maybe I'm not using Watchtower brand soap....
Have a good turkey day Freddie!
ashi
