What would the elders do if they learned about a brother that went to the Business Expo at the local church?
I have a question for the elders/ex-elders
by asilentone 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Seeker4
Personally, absolutely nothing. Maybe I'd have gone with him if he'd asked me.
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dogon
It would be a con. thing. Just like when I owned a carpet store, I never turned down a job form a church, and was called on the carpet punn intended, for it. I found out through a grandparent that was an elder to say the my check did not come from the church, they have stupid rules all over this stupid cult. If you do not get paid direct from the church it is up to each indiv. if they want to do the work. Same for going inside a church for another function other than religion.
Some dubbers are so controlled by the cult, they would sit around and argue if it was a sin to watch the 4th fire works from your house window or if it was only wrong if you expended the effort to drive to a place to see them. LOL
What a joke these idiots are, I am so glad to be rid of these assholes. Goodridens to stupid people.
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OnTheWayOut
Most BOE would simply admonish the brother. If he were not a hounder, he could expect
to be held back from privileges- reading, microphone handling, the likes.If he were a hounder, then they would say they had to get together and discuss his
qualifications. If he kissed their asses and apologized, they would keep him as an elder.
If he refused to kiss their asses, they would probably still keep him as an elder anyway.
But they wouldn't do this twice.It is all so stupid.
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undercover
Depends on how zealous the body of elders are.
Technically speaking, JWs aren't supposed to go to weddings and funerals that are in churches...even to the point that an appointed brother could lose his privileges for doing so.
Of course, a business expo isn't a form of worship but it is being held in a building of Christendom and supported by Christendom. I could see some uber-elders making a big stink out of it. But then again, more easy going elders wouldn't even blink an eye.
You'd think that one's conscience would be the deciding factor, but JWs are so programmed to not think for themselves, they'll err on the side of caution so as to not "grieve the Holy Spirit"
When I first started fading, I started attending a yearly social event held at a big local church. Business networking was the main reason I was invited and felt the need to go. However, I feared that I would be found out by local elders but I've gone every year for several years and active JWs know about it and no one has ever said a word about it. I now look forward to it and help advertise it to the community.
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james_woods
Maybe he could claim that he was doing incidental witnessing and walk free?
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
The devil may be in the details. If the church has been rented by some organization for a purely secular business expo, I can't imagine it would be anything. If the church was sponsoring and directly involved with fundraising, it could be problematic. If the business expo is for idols, stained glass, candles, and vestements, there would be judicial issues.
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witnessgirl
Technically speaking, JWs aren't supposed to go to weddings and funerals that are in churches...even to the point that an appointed brother could lose his privileges for doing so.
Check out page 31 of the Nov. 15 2007 Watchtower ... it is a conscience thing now. I can scan it if you don't have a copy.
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OnTheWayOut
Check out page 31 of the Nov. 15 2007 Watchtower ... it is a conscience thing now.
That's for the rank-and-file members. The elders are supposed to set a higher
example. They wouldn't be DF'ed for a "conscience matter" but they are supposed
to have aBibleWT-trained conscience. The best thing for them to do is not to
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Seeker4
Hell, as an elder 20 years ago I went to weddings and funerals in Churches, and I never missed a 5 year class reunion either. So much of this depended on your local BOE. If they were nosy, no-boundary pricks, you could get in trouble. If they were decent guys, they left you alone.
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