Request for info - Please post the number of partakers between 1975 - 1992
by Awakened at Gilead 20 Replies latest watchtower bible
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New light for you
Fadeout.. your chart says it's been at the same number forever. is that true? i thought the point was the number was going up?
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Fadeout
It fluctuates up and down, but there has not been either an upward or downward trend for the last 30 years.
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treadnh2o
New Light- If you factor in the old ones dying, the number is going up, albeit in small increments. I am really curious about this years number as I know newly anointed(crazy) ones and have heard reports of a bunch of new partakers
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Fadeout
In 2007 there were 347 more partakers than 2006... that is the largest single-year increase ever. It could well signal the start of an upward trend.
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donny
Isn't it amusing how the memorial partakers have recovered to numbers not seen since 1984!
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Atlantis
Click the link at the bottom of the next page for a pdf file of the Memorial partaker numbers from 1975 to 1992. (With WT scans). http://www.sendspace.com/file/caxlld Cheers! Atlantis!-
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Atlantis
I hope this will work! Scroll over to your right for anointed.
From 1992 to 2007
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sektenausstieg.net%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D310%26Itemid%3D29&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&safe=off&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools Cheers! Atlantis!-Jahr Years Höchstzahl Maximum number Durchschn. Avg. Taufen Baptisms Pioniere Pioneers VersammlÂungen Versamml-ments Stunden Hours Studien Studies Ged-Mahl Ged-food Gesalbte Anointed 2007 6.957.854 6,957,854 6.691.790 6,691,790 298.304 298,304 678.638 678,638
312.741 312,741101.376 101,376 1.431.761.554 1,431,761,554 6.561.426 6,561,426 17.672.443 17,672,443 9.105 9,105 2006 6.741.444 6,741,444 6.491.775 6,491,775 248.327 248,327 642.182 642,182
269.557 269,55799.770 99,770 1.333.966.199 1,333,966,199 6.286.618 6,286,618 16.675.113 16,675,113 8.758 8,758 2005 6.613.829 6,613,829 6.390.016 6,390,016 247.631 247,631 623.308 623,308
219.926 219,92698.269 98,269 1.278.201.985 1,278,201,985 6.061.546 6,061,546 16.383.333 16,383,333 8.524 8,524 2004 6.513.132 6,513,132 6.308.341 6,308,341 262.416 262,416 858.461 858,461 96.894 96,894 1.282.234.887 1,282,234,887 6.085.387 6,085,387 16.760.607 16,760,607 8.570 8,570 2003 6.429.351 6,429,351 6.184.046 6,184,046 258.845 258,845 825.185 825,185 95.919 95,919 1.234.796.477 1,234,796,477 5.726.509 5,726,509 16.097.622 16,097,622 8.565 8,565 2002 6.304.645 6,304,645 6.048.600 6,048,600 265.469 265,469 798.938 798,938 94.600 94,600 1.202.381.302 1,202,381,302 5.309.289 5,309,289 15.597.746 15,597,746 8.760 8,760 2001 6.117.666 6,117,666 5.881.776 5,881,776 263.431 263,431 787.439 787,439 93.154 93,154 1.169.082.225 1,169,082,225 4.921.702 4,921,702 15.374.986 15,374,986 8.730 8,730 2000 6.035.564 6,035,564 5.783.003 5,783,003 288.907 288,907 805.205 805,205 91.487 91,487 1.171.270.425 1,171,270,425 4.766.631 4,766,631 14.872.086 14,872,086 8.661 8,661 1999 5.912.492 5,912,492 5.653.987 5,653,987 323.439 323,439 738.343 738,343 89.985 89,985 1.144.566.849 1,144,566,849 4.433.884 4,433,884 14.088.751 14,088,751 8.755 8,755 1998 5.888.650 5,888,650 5.544.059 5,544,059 316.092 316,092 698.781 698,781 87.644 87,644 1.186.666.708 1,186,666,708 4.302.852 4,302,852 13.896.312 13,896,312 8.756 8,756 1997 5.599.931 5,599,931 5.353.078 5,353,078 375.923 375,923 706.270 706,270 85.256 85,256 1.179.735.841 1,179,735,841 4.552.589 4,552,589 14.322.226 14,322,226 8.795 8,795 1996 5.413.769 5,413,769 5.167.258 5,167,258 366.579 366,579 645.509 645,509 81.908 81,908 1.140.621.714 1,140,621,714 4.855.030 4,855,030 12.921.933 12,921,933 8.757 8,757 1995 5.199.895 5,199,895 4.950.344 4,950,344 338.491 338,491 663.521 663,521 78.620 78,620 1.150.353.444 1,150,353,444 4.865.060 4,865,060 13.147.201 13,147,201 8.645 8,645 1994 4.914.094 4,914,094 4.695.111 4,695,111 314.818 314,818 636.202 636,202 75.573 75,573 1.096.065.354 1,096,065,354 4.701.357 4,701,357 12.288.917 12,288,917 8.617 8,617 1993 4.709.889 4,709,889 4.483.900 4,483,900 296.004 296,004 623.006 623,006 73.070 73,070 1.057.341.972 1,057,341,972 4.515.587 4,515,587 11.865.765 11,865,765 8.693 8,693 1992 4.472.787 4,472,787 4.289.737 4,289,737 301.002 301,002 605.610 605,610 69.558 69,558 1.024.910.434 1,024,910,434 4.278.127 4,278,127 11.431.171 11,431,171 8.683 8,683 -
Awakened at Gilead
Thanks for your help with the source data Blondie, Fadeout, and Atlantis...
Alright, I have finished the charts and a word doc with apostate commentary...
Download here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/8210205/2cb4ccbe/Partakers_increasing.html
Feel free to use as you see fit.....(I am counting my time, BTW, where do I turn it in?)
Lance
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JCanon
Just a note of CAUTION here.
The parable about the vineyard workers is about the WTS and the cutoff after 35 years of the "anointed." That is, beginning with the third-hour workers they were not told they would get the penny. A half hour in the Bible is 3.5 years so an hour is 7 years. The work in the vineyard beginning 1914 for 77 years ends in 1991. But the third-hour workers show up after 21 years, 3 x 7 = 21. 21 plus 1914 is 1935. That is when the official "other sheep" class was recognized.
But as the parable shows, when Christ arrives to pay the workers, starting with the last first, THEY ALL GET THE PENNY! So technically, there should have been a sharp increase in partakers who now are anointed. Only thing is, the newly anointed ones have more accurate understanding and so they know they are not supposed to partake any more once Christ has arrived! He said keep this as a memorial UNTIL I RETURN. So technically if christ returned in 1914 they should have stopped partaking. But who knows the mind of the evil slave, set on doing lawlessness when it works.
So TECHNICALLY, some of the anointed might have not fully understood this or decided to acknowledge their being of the anointed if they are still associated with the congregation, so a slight increase after 1993 is expected, though most of the newly anointed know better than to partake after Christ has arrived.
Further the 144,000 are just the Jews who make up only 10% of the whole number (Isa 6:13). The total number of anointed is 10 TIMES 144K or 1,440,000!
Therefore, of ANYBODY THINKS or thought before May 2008 that they might be anointed or being "called" they should have answered that call. It's too late now but those sealed into the kingdom was going on until just recently.
The first-hour workers, making up the old anointed and thus the GB are the last to know and are surprised about these newly anointed ones who also get the penny! They don't like it that the "other sheep" are all invited up to heaven like they were. Christ says, "Take your money and go!" They do murmur against this, but that also means they were SURPRISED by this. So the GB doesn't understand, or didn't then, that EVERYBODY is invited up to heaven if they qualify, including the other sheep, who make up the 3rd through 11th hour workers.
So from a JIOR point of view, the newly anointed ones are not suspect though the WTS might think they are. 300+ is not aligned with their doctrine that that number is declining, right?
Anyway, if some of the newly anointed are showing up and partaking that is an indication of what is really supposed to be happening.
I bet if some of those newly anointed ones are very young as well, the WTS would tend to doubt their being anointed. I wonder what the congregations are doing about the newly anointed ones? I'm pretty sure they tried to talk them out of it or reason with them to make sure they KNEW they were of the anointed. Jehovah might have arranged for some of them to partake just to show what is going on. But the greater majority of them know they don't have to partake since Christ returned in 1992 and ate the last Lord's Supper in "Temple City" California on Passover, April 6, 1993.
So, like the "generation" concept, another false, out-of-touch concept by the GB which has now been "disfellowshipped" by Jehovah, by the way, as of November 10, 1992.
READ THE BIBLE! All the workers are granted the PENNY, meaning heavenly life! That means after 1991 if you were "other sheep" and worthy and actually paying attention to the Bible rather than the Watchtower and the call came, you got to be anointed. Like me! That's our authority, that all the workers are invited once the messiah arrives.
JC