BOGUS ORIGINS of Watchtower core beliefs DESTROYS FDS claims (page 2)

LockedChaos

Terry

Nicely put together

Clear, concise and accurate

All your effort is greatly appreciated

james_woods

UMMM -

"Paul goes and circumcised Timothy"

Do you know, the more I read about the "apostle Paul" & "Timothy", the more I think that there was something very, very strange about those two -

Women may be occasionally a beyoutisch, but still --------

Terry

If you have a certain personality type you get sucked in to a certain kind of religion. No question about it.

Cults are magnets for people on the outside of society in some way. Fringe dwellers. Square pegs. Egoists and narcissists.

For such as these it fits for them to belong to the ONLY true religion. it fits for them to have an inside track to God Almighty. It fits for them to lay it all out for others like the big experts they are.

Know-it-alls fit in well as long as they tow the line.

Nerds and brainiacs can soak up the multi-layered theology, chronology and assorted explications easily. It fits.

Belief is the the least of it. It is a PERSONALITY fit first. Belief can follow.

Quid pro quo. This for that.

I'm just sorry to have to admit it fit my personality for all those years!

StAnn

This is an excellent thread, one of the best I've seen in awhile.

Kudos, Terry!

StAnn

Anti-Christ

Belief is the the least of it. It is a PERSONALITY fit first. Belief can follow.
Quid pro quo. This for that.
I'm just sorry to have to admit it fit my personality for all those years!

Interesting hypothesis but i believe that if someone is born in, the religion creates a personality that fits, for a wile. It never fit for me, I tried and tried but finally gave up only to realised I was duped. I don't think it's a question of belief but a question of knowledge, to a certain degree. If you receive the knowledge but refuse to accept it then I agree that it's a personality fit. Take my dad for example, I prove to him that the WT lied and tried to cover it up and he admitted that they lied but he didn't care. He has sacrifice to much to accept he was duped. His personality is intertwined with the religion, his identity is inseparable from the WT.

Great post BTW Terry.

TJ - iAmCleared2Land

Terry: How many out there know that "Present Truth" and "New Light" are original to Adventists and not Jehovah's Witnesses?

Interesting! "Present Truth" was actually the name of the Adventist's first theological periodical (like the 'Watchtower'):

http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/doctrines/au2002conference/guy/guy-past.htm

The spirit of theological discovery was expressed in the name of the first Adventist periodical: Present Truth. The name was taken from the King James Version of 2 Peter 1:12, and James White explained it in the first issue:" In Peter's time there was present truth, or truth applicable to that present time. The Church [has] ever had a present truth. The present truth now, is that which shows present duty."

Terry

Take my dad for example, I prove to him that the WT lied and tried to cover it up and he admitted that they lied but he didn't care. He has sacrifice to much to accept he was duped.

Look up the SUNK COST FALLACY. It fits.

It happens to bad poker players who throw good money after bad.

Essentially, once you've spent enough time, money or effort or risked enough on a venture you fallaciously reason you cannot afford to quit.

It ignores the fact that money NOT LOST or time NOT WASTED has great value too. What's gone is gone. What's lost is lost. Don't stay on the losing path or you stay a loser.

My ex-wife had a ton of lottery tickets in her glovebox. She said she COULD NOT stop buying the lottery tickets.

I asked why.

Here is her answer.

"I always play the same numbers. If I stopped and those numbers won someday I'd never forgive myself."

Huh?

Anti-Christ

Look up the SUNK COST FALLACY. It fits.

I looked it up and it fits my dad to well.

Fatfreek

Once again, an excellent thread, Terry.

Mark Twain was one of Russell's contemporaries though I suspect the liklihood of Twain knowing of Russell was far less than the reverse. While Twain didn't use the term plagiarism in the following quotation, what he said gave me pause in view of the theme of this thread:

In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
- Autobiography of Mark Twain

Len Miller

Terry

In religion and politics people's beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing.
- Autobiography of Mark Twain

Very nice quote! Gives one pause.

BOGUS ORIGINS of Watchtower core beliefs DESTROYS FDS claims

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