Are Jehovah's Witnesses a Cult?

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  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    Good point on No. 1. "Messiah" means "anointed one."
    JW's have to agree with the Governing Body, and they are taught that these
    are the only anointed ones that matter. They do swear allegiance to Jehovah
    and his "spirit-directed" organization (The Governing Body) at their baptism.

    2. Rational thought is discouraged or forbidden.

    It's called "independent" thinking to JW's. It is discouraged. Even looking at
    outside resources is discouraged in print.

    3. The cult's recruitment techniques are often deceptive.

    What do you need to hear. Information is left out about disfellowshipping those
    that stop following the teachings. Difficult questions are avoided with "You will
    understand that later if you just keep studying and going to the meetings."
    Recruiters at the door are taught to say "We are just here to encourage Bible
    reading and not to convert anybody." YEAH, RIGHT.

    making him or her depend upon the group to solve his or her problems.

    Life revolves around the meetings. Awake and WT are used to answer all questions.
    Stop associating with outsiders so that your entire life only has believers helping you
    with your problems.

    7. Cults exist only for their own material survival and make false promises to work to improve society.

    They tell the members that the "donations-only" arrangement is for them. It was to avoid
    paying taxes. The false promises are there about the new system. It is important to stay
    a regular "publisher" of the good news (sales agent of the WT literature)

    8. Cult members often work fulltime for the group for little or no pay.

    Pioneers, C.O., D.O., Bethelites, Gileadites. And they get dismissed when they are not
    needed.

    10. Cults are anti-woman, anti-child, and anti-family.

    They love to appear to be pro-family. The reality is that they tell grandparents and parents to
    shun adult or pre-adult children or grandchildren. They have just as many divorces as outsiders.
    Men are king. Young ones are encouraged to stay single, don't have children.

    13. Cults, particularly in regard to their finances, are shrouded in secrecy.

    WTS tells us nothing about the use of money. In disaster relief efforts, they insist that people stop
    donating "things" and just donate money. They insist that it not be earmarked for the disaster
    relief, but just for the worldwide work. They will decide how to best accept your money to help in the
    disaster relief.

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  • B_Deserter
    B_Deserter

    I think the confusion of whether or not JWs are a cult is the popular depiction of cults. Typically, only the worst ones get the press, like the People's Temple, Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate, etc. The society uses this popular image to its advantage. They like to point out how JWs don't live on compounds and seem basically normal. They even say that Jehovah's Witnesses are just average people to outsiders. To outsiders, the promote the idea that Jehovah's Witnesses do not stand out. Yet, once someone becomes a JW, he/she is told that they MUST stand out. Witnesses internally pride themselves on being recognized as a Jehovah's Witness based on their physical appearance.

    Even so, Jehovah's Witnesses do not fit the mold of extreme suicide cults, but that does not mean that it isn't a cult. There are many lists of what makes a cult, and typically Jehovah's Witnesses match many of the aspects in those lists. Consider this list and how it fits the organization.

    1. A destructive cult tends to be totalitarian in its control of its members' behavior. Cults are likely to dictate in great detail not only what members believe, but also what members wear and eat, when and where members work, sleep, and bathe, and how members think, speak, and conduct familial, marital, or sexual relationships. The society publishes many article regarding proper dress for Christians, how Christians are supposed to "stand out" from the world. Also, certain professions like police officer, security guard, and military careers are forbidden. Family relationships are given a set pattern, and one can find himself being removed from positions of responsibility because his family does not "fall in line." Finally, sexual relationships are also regulated, including what kinds of sexual activity are acceptable even between married couples.
    2. A destructive cult tends to have an ethical double standard. Members are urged to be obedient to the cult, to carefully follow cult rules. They are also encouraged to be revealing and open in the group, confessing all to the leaders. On the other hand, outside the group they are encouraged to act unethically, manipulating outsiders or nonmembers, and either deceiving them or simply revealing very little about themselves or the group. In contrast to destructive cults, honorable groups teach members to abide by one set of ethics and act ethically and truthfully to all people in all situations. This reminds me of "theocratic war strategy" where we are instructed to hide information from the courts if it does not aid the goals of the society. Confession of sin to the elders is also mandatory.
    3. A destructive cult has only two basic purposes: recruiting new members and fund-raising. Altruistic movements, established religions, and other honorable groups also recruit and raise funds. However, these actions are incidental to an honorable group's main purpose of improving the lives of its members and of humankind in general. Destructive cults may claim to make social contributions, but in actuality such claims are superficial and only serve as gestures or fronts for recruiting and fund-raising. A cult's real goal is to increase the prestige and often the wealth of the leader. Recruiting is the Jehovah's Witness's only purpose in life. It is the only honorable activity one can engage in. Donation collection is also heavily stressed, especially when a congregation's funds get low.
    4. A destructive cult appears to be innovative and exclusive. The leader claims to be breaking with tradition, offering something novel, and instituting the ONLY viable system for change that will solve life's problems or the world's ills. But these claims are empty and only used to recruit members who are then surreptitiously subjected to mind control to inhibit their ability to examine the actual validity of the claims of the leader and the cult. The whole premise of the Jehovah's Witness religion is to stand out, and break with the traditions of mainstream Christianity. The life of a Jehovah's Witness is presented as the ONLY hope for the world's ills. Jehovah is the ONLY possible solution.
    5. A destructive cult is authoritarian in its power structure. The leader is regarded as the supreme authority. He or she may delegate certain power to a few subordinates for the purpose of seeing that members adhere to the leader's wishes. There is no appeal outside his or her system to a greater system of justice. For example, if a schoolteacher feels unjustly treated by a principal, an appeal can be made to the superintendent. In a destructive cult, the leader claims to have the only and final ruling on all matters. In this case the "leader" is the governing body, though Jehovah's Witnesses won't admit it. The governing body has the final say in all doctrinal matters. There is no appeal process to their decision.
    6. A destructive cult's leader is a self-appointed messianic person claiming to have a special mission in life. For example, leaders of flying saucer cults claim that beings from outer space have commissioned them to lead people away from Earth, so that only the leaders can save them from impending doom. The leadership in Jehovah's Witnesses is claimed to be men who are "selected" by the Holy Spirit, and all the decisions are guided by it.
    7. A destructive cult's leader centers the veneration of members upon himself or herself. Priests, rabbis, ministers, democratic leaders, and other leaders of genuinely altruistic movements focus the veneration of adherents on God or a set of ethical principles. Cult leaders, in contrast, keep the focus of love, devotion, and allegiance on themselves. Witnesses teach that being obedient to the society is more important than being correct, as they believe that God will correct the society over time. Even if one disagrees with a teaching, he is expected to teach it unaltered to others.
    8. A destructive cult's leader tends to be determined, domineering, and charismatic. Such a leader effectively persuades followers to abandon or alter their families, friends, and careers to follow the cult. The leader then takes control over followers' possessions, money, time, and lives. Family relationships with those who become Jehovah's Witnesses are severely altered. Abandonment of career to devote more time to serving religious interests is highly encouraged. It is often suggested that members subsist on part-time work in order to "pioneer," or devote full-time service to recruiting others. Being a JW is also quite time-consuming with meetings three times a week, studying, and field service. Members are taught to schedule their lives around religious events, not vice versa.
  • Gerard
    Gerard

    Are Jehovah's Witnesses a Cult?
    Can a fish swim?

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    BTTT for minimus benefit.

  • minimus
    minimus

    I understand that they're a cult and I do my best to expose that. What about you??

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    When I was in, I denied the WTS was a cult while having no idea what a cult really was.

    I thought it was always in a commune with only one person being worshipped.

  • Doubting Bro
    Doubting Bro

    This was one of the hardest things for me to admit when I started "waking up". But, if it walks, looks and sounds like a duck....

    I used to think I was half-way intelligent but to realize that I not only fell for a cult, but was a lower level manager for one is quite depressing.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    I think it is valuable to remember that although there is not a single obvious charismatic human leader today, it was certainly based on one - C.T.Russell. There was a great storm of contraversy following his death, when a new strong-man - J.F.Rutherford took over with strong-arm tactics.

    In my day, Knorr ruled with almost the same Iron Fist as the previous two. You have to have been around Bethel guys in the day to hear the "Knorr stories". Finally, when Franz got his chance to drive the train, he pretty much wrecked it all by himself with 1975 and the coverup. So they have plenty of human-hero-worship in their past.

    The anti-family, anti-child, anti-woman thing is subtle but obvious - for a long time they have taught to not have families or kids before the new system. Their attitude toward subservience of women is demonstrably no better than Jim Jones had.

    Violence? They claim to be non-violent, but they practise a form of masochistic self-inflicted violence and enforce it on the members. Malawi, the anti-war protests and prison, the Blood rules all come to mind. And of course they continue to preach the justified murder of all other humans on earth except for themselves over their religious issues.

    So, I call it 12 for 12 on the talking points.

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut

    I just noticed this thread and must must must comment on the WT article that Blondie put
    up for us.

    *** w94 2/15 pp. 5-7 Are Jehovah’s Witnesses a Cult? ***

    What

    the Evidence Shows

    Jehovah’s Witnesses do not hold ritualistic meetings, nor is their worship cloaked in secrecy. Non-Witness author Julia Mitchell Corbett notes: "When they meet, usually more than once a week, in Kingdom Halls (their meeting sites are not called churches), most of their time is spent in Bible study and discussion." Their meeting places are clearly marked with a sign. The meetings are open, and the general public is invited to attend. Unannounced guests are more than welcome.

    The meetings could be defined as ritualistic by outsiders. Certainly, the Memorial could be so.
    The songs, prayers, repetitive study methods seem very ritualistic. The absolute refusal to take
    comments during the studies that might not agree with the material- that's borderline ritualistic.

    Cloaked in secrecy- there's a "members only" mag. now. You must attend the meetings to get
    better understanding for your questions if you are a literature student of their preachers.

    Virtually none of their time is spent in "Bible" study, but in a study of what the Watchtower says
    about the Bible. Discussion is not allowed. Just give the correct answer (CORRECT as defined
    by the material being studied.).

    The "Witnesses have earned the reputation of being honest, courteous, and industrious," adds Corbett in her book Religion in America. Many who are not Witnesses readily acknowledge that there is nothing freakish or bizarre about Jehovah’s Witnesses. Their conduct does not clash with what is accepted as normal social behavior. The New Encyclopædia Britannica accurately states that the Witnesses "insist upon a high moral code in personal conduct."

    But ask a former Witness if they are freakish or bizarre. "Many" are the ones who don't know
    the real truths. They don't know about disfellowshipping and shunning of grandchildren/children.
    They don't know about Judicial Committees for petting among teens. They don't know about
    protecting the organization ahead of pedophile victims. Their doctrine alone can be defined as
    freakish and bizarre. Their practices certainly are.

    At any rate, the Witnesses are far from being a small fringe cult. In the spring of 1993, more than 11 million people attended the Witnesses’ Memorial of Christ’s death. But more important than their number are their moral character and exemplary behavior, which have brought them worldwide commendation. Undoubtedly this has been a factor in countries that have given them official recognition as a known, bona fide religion.

    So they are a large cult, not a small one.
    Can they update this to include countries that now don't recognize them as a bona fide religion?

    ...Of the millions of non-Witnesses who are studying the Bible with the Witnesses or who have studied with them at one time or another, we ask, Were there any attempts to brainwash you? Did the Witnesses employ mind-control techniques on you? "No" would doubtless be your frank response. Obviously, if these methods had been used, there would be an overwhelming number of victims in contradiction to any argument in favor of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    There is an overwhelming number of victims in contradiction. The members and those that study
    are told not to read anything from them, not to talk to them. Those in contradiction are
    branded as APOSTATE and are demonized by them.

    Cult members often isolate themselves from family, friends, and even society in general. Is that the case with Jehovah’s Witnesses?

    YES. They just don't move to a compound. But YES, they isolate themselves in association
    by limiting contact with outside family and having virtually no social contact with others.

    When disasters strike, they are quick to respond with relief supplies and other humanitarian assistance.

    Yes, there are wonderful individuals in the cult. Even there, the mother organization abuses them.
    They are ready to help each other out, but the organization screens them and only allows "approved"
    ones to go to disaster relief zones. Members are asked to stop sending food and supplies and to
    only send money to the organization, not to earmark it for the disaster relief, let Mother decide how
    to best use their funds.

    More important, they are engaged in an educational program that has no comparison. How many religions have an organized system to pay personal visits to every individual in their community? Jehovah’s Witnesses do this in more than 200 lands and in more than 200 languages! Clearly, Jehovah’s Witnesses are "absorbed in humanity."

    There are many religious schools, colleges, universities. They act as if those don't exist. Do they really
    pay personal visits to every individual in the community? NO, only those they hope to convert or to
    sell magazines to. They could not care less about humanity. They will not help anyone who doesn't
    study with them. Their education program encourages them not to think for themselves and to skip
    reading anything they don't print and to get a basic education without higher learning.

    Strict Adherence to the Bible

    ...."The group has never wavered from its focus on Bible study, and its teachings are supported by an elaborate system of references to scripture."

    Their Bible is a warped translation. It takes an elaborate system to balance their beliefs.

    Who Is Their Leader?

    ...They reject the concept of a clergy-laity distinction. The Encyclopedia of Religion aptly states about Jehovah’s Witnesses: "A clergy class and distinctive titles are prohibited."

    Well, California rejected their attempt to have clergy-liaty distinction when it comes to
    privileged information to their clergy. The distinctive titles exist but are not used with the
    names. Don't they always announce the speakers at the DC as "an elder with the XYZ
    congregation" now or "an elder and pioneer with" that congregation?

    To avoid saying they have A LEADER, they have a group of leaders. How is that better?

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