"Only active "jw's will survive armageddon"....a list please.......

by oompa 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  compound complex

  "Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium."

  WT, September 1, 1989, p. 19.

  Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd,"
  as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any
  scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system [of things]
  dominated by Satan the Devil ... For survival into the Millennium under the Greater
  Noah, Jesus Christ, they have to remain organized with the anointed remnant, "the
  chosen ones" on account of whom the days of the "great tribulation" will be cut
  short.
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  Quirky1

  Rebel, my MIL says that she'll see me drop and the buzzards will eat my corpse! WTF?

  LOL

  Quirky
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  james_woods

  This is a commonality shared with a number of other cults - the quasi-secret belief that is too weird or terrible to speak of openly in public.

  If you ask a JW who comes to your door if only JWs will be saved through the end, they will provide you with a better "um-uh-well---that is above my pay scale - ehhh, um" than did Barak Obama in that church debate. You will not get a simple yes or no - unless of course the witness in question is one of the sub-one-percentile of really really hard-core meanies. Normally they will not even reveal this until a new convert is well along with "bible study" and closing the corner into baptism.

  It is the JW equivalent of the Mormon holy underwear, the secret suicide pact of the Peoples Temple, the story of Xenu and the aliens for a 6th level Scientologist, the secret legends of Hiram the Architect for Freemasons, and so forth.

  There is a good reason such things are kept secret: The simple fact is that they are too silly, repugnant, or creepy to reveal to a normal thinking person until a good deal of indoctrination/brainwashing has already set in. The Scientologists even teach that a non-devotee might be driven mad by the higher levels unless they have been carefully "prepared". So with the witnesses and their real belief of Armageddon.

  While most of these little secret rites may seem just a little silly, or perhaps embarassingly bizarre...the teaching that the God you worship is soon going to come and kill every man, woman, and child on earth (except for the cult members in good standing) is a startling revelation of intellectual immorality of the most insane depravity imaginable.
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  Quirky1

  While most of these little secret rites may seem just a little silly, or perhaps embarassingly bizarre...the teaching that the God you worship is soon going to come and kill every man, woman, and child on earth (except for the cult members in good standing) is a startling revelation of intellectual immorality of the most insane depravity imaginable.

  Kinda f*cked up isn't it?
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  Caedes

  Just noting for future reference.

  Thanks
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  Magwitch

  My four siblings and myself all became atheists much to the chagrin of our very active third generation parents. For years we have heard that all five of us are going to be destroyed at Armegeddon (We took comfort in knowing we were all going down together). Last year one of my brother's (the loudest activist against the JW's) was killed in a motorcycle accident. Now my parents are loudly proclaiming that he will be resurrected and just four of us will be destroyed now. All I can say is that Derek is going to be very pissed off to find out he has been resurreccted to live forever with these people and the other four siblings got off the hook.
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  Quirky1

  All I can say is that Derek is going to be very pissed off to find out he has been resurreccted to live forever with these people and the other four siblings got off the hook.

  I'd be pissed too!
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  undercover

  I posted this on another thread but it fits this discussion as well...

  I find this quote from the October 1, 1993 WT (page 19 paragraph 14) very interesting...this paragraph should come in handy for when a JW tries to deny that the official doctrine is that all non-believers will die for not being associated with the organization...

  14 There are billions of people who do not know Jehovah. Many of them in ignorance practice things that God's Word shows to be wicked. If they persist in this course, they will be among those who perish duing the great tribulation.

  A JW might say, "it says the wicked will perish..." but notice the exact quote; "...they will be among those who perish...". So who else perishes along with the wicked?

  Another thought is that pretty much anyone not associated with JWs practices things considered wicked...even mundane things such as birthdays and Xmas. Isn't it true that JWs think of the world as lying in the power of the wicked one, thus making the "world" in itself wicked? How many times do they reference the "world" as "wicked"? If everyone not in the JWs is part of the "wicked system of things" then according to this paragraph, they will perish during the great tribulation.
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  Confession

  Verrrrryy early in my awakening, I began to write down all of the things I was experiencing. Here's an excerpt from something I wrote (October of 2004) only about two weeks after I realized The Truth wasn't...

  When non JWs would ask me, “So do you believe that only Jehovah’s Witnesses will get into God’s Kingdom?” I would answer in a typically diplomatic fashion.

  “Only God knows who he will and will not allow into His kingdom; that decision certainly isn’t up to us. We do recognize though that He does not accept just any form of worship. We also know that the Bible teaches the road to life is ‘narrow and cramped and few would be finding it,’ while the road to destruction would be ‘broad and spacious and many would be finding it.’ So it’s reasonable to believe that most people are not on that road to life, and it’s probably unreasonable to think that a religion is the right one simply because so many people are members.” So, while we craft an answer that we hope will result in less controversy, the truth is—yes, Jehovah’s Witnesses do in fact believe that (among those living today) only those in this organization will enter God’s Kingdom.

  If people pressed on this topic further, I would usually paraphrase what I’d heard a District Overseer, Brother Beagler, say. “Are you asking me if I believe I have the truth? Well, yes I DO believe I have the truth. Don’t you believe YOU have the truth?” I would then go on to show them the verses at Matthew 24:43-47. I would then say, “So that’s a question each one of us has to answer for him or herself. Who really is that faithful and discreet slave? I’ve answered that for myself. I believe the faithful and discreet slave is in association with the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” I would then often take them to Ephesians 1:10, which speaks of “an administration at the full limit of the times, namely, to gather all things together again in the Christ…” I’d usually ask if they’d let me show them why I felt this was referring to the Watchtower Society.

  Oh, and here's another quote for you...

  “…survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah's universal organization.” [Watchtower, May 15, 2006]
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  oompa

  Now THATS what im talkin about friends! This is good ol helpful jwd..........thanks for all the links and quotes guy. Also thanks Magwitch for making me laugh.....but sorry about your brother too...............thanks all..........oompa

  btw...I think MOST jw's somehow inside believe differently that the jw party line.......man have trouble thinking god would whack so many billions.........