If they did that they would lose half their American members
We used to have an Elder who was about 320lb (23st)
The Gov Body quietly considered expelling those judged too obese
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besty
The much loved and now deceased UK DO David Carter must have been 300lbs all day long.
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OUTLAW
Lots of over weight JW`s..The WBT$ would loose 2/3rds of the JW`s..It`s not going to happen..
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MadGiant
What they are going to do with this cases:
Genes and Family History
Studies of identical twins who have been raised apart show that genes have a strong influence on one’s weight. Overweight and obesity tend to run in families. Your chances of being overweight are greater if one or both of your parents are overweight or obese. Your genes also may affect the amount of fat you store in your body and where on your body you carry the extra fat.
Because families also share food and physical activity habits, there is a link between genes and the environment. Children adopt the habits of their parents. So, a child with overweight parents who eat high-calorie foods and are inactive will likely become overweight like the parents. On the other hand, if a family adopts healthful food and physical activity habits, the child’s chance of being overweight or obese is reduced.Health Conditions
Sometimes hormone problems cause overweight and obesity. These problems include:
• Underactive thyroid (also called hypothyroidism). This is a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn’t make enough thyroid hormone. Lack of thyroid hormone will slow down your metabolism and cause weight gain. You’ll also feel tired and weak.
• Cushing’s syndrome. This is a condition in which the body’s adrenal glands make too much of the hormone cortisol. Cushing’s syndrome also can happen when people take high levels of medicines such as prednisone for long periods of time. People with Cushing’s syndrome gain weight, have upper-body obesity, a rounded face, fat around the neck, and thin arms and legs.
• Polycystic ovarian syndrome (PCOS). This is a condition that affects about 5 to 10 percent of women of childbearing age. Women with PCOS often are obese, have excess hair growth, and have reproductive and other health problems due to high levels of hormones called androgens.
Medicines
Certain medicines such as corticosteroids (for example, prednisone), antidepressants (for example, Elavil®), and medicines for seizures (for example, Neurontin®) may cause you to gain weight. These medicines can slow the rate at which your body burns calories, increase your appetite, or cause your body to hold on to extra water—all of which can lead to weight gain.Emotional Factors
Some people eat more than usual when they are bored, angry, or stressed. Over time, overeating will lead to weight gain and may cause overweight or obesity.
Smoking
Some people gain weight when they stop smoking. One reason is that food often tastes and smells better. Another reason is because nicotine raises the rate at which your body burns calories, so you burn fewer calories when you stop smoking. However, smoking is a serious health risk, and quitting is more important than possible weight gain.
Age
As you get older, you tend to lose muscle, especially if you’re less active. Muscle loss can slow down the rate at which your body burns calories. If you don’t reduce your calorie intake as you get older, you may gain weight. Midlife weight gain in women is mainly due to aging and lifestyle, but menopause also plays a role. Many women gain around 5 pounds during menopause and have more fat around the waist than they did before.
Pregnancy
During pregnancy, women gain weight so that the baby gets proper nourishment and develops normally. After giving birth, some women find it hard to lose the weight. This may lead to overweight or obesity, especially after a few pregnancies.
Lack of Sleep
Studies find that the less people sleep, the more likely they are to be overweight or obese. People who report sleeping 5 hours a night, for example, are much more likely to become obese compared to people who sleep 7–8 hours a night.
People who sleep fewer hours also seem to prefer eating foods that are higher in calories and carbohydrates, which can lead to overeating, weight gain, and obesity over time. Hormones that are released during sleep control appetite and the body’s use of energy. For example, insulin controls the rise and fall of blood sugar levels during sleep. People who don’t get enough sleep have insulin and blood sugar levels that are similar to those in people who are likely to have diabetes.
Also, people who don’t get enough sleep on a regular basis seem to have high levels of a hormone called ghrelin (which causes hunger) and low levels of a hormone called leptin (which normally helps to curb hunger).Take care
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Satanus
If they wanna follow the bible, then they should df the obese. J hoover's wholesome spirit would help people to control their eating habbits by filling their lives w happiness and love. Yah, right.
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HappyDad
I've known a few JW's over the past 40 years that were sooooo obese that some of them were in wheelchairs. Nothing was ever said to them and it made me wonder and doubt.
Why were smokers and overindulgers of alcohol DF'd?
It should be a two way street and not just pointing at one imperfection.
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FlyingHighNow
Gluttony, according to the quoted definition is excessive indulgence and voracious eating. You don't have to do either to gain weight. And you can do either and remain thin. For those of you whose thinking is simiplistic enough to wonder why overweight people were not disfellowshipped: where do you draw the line on being overweight? 5lbs over? 10? 20? 50? 100? 200? The person who is 200 lbs overweight may not eat anymore than a thin person or the person who is 10 or 20 lbs overweight.GLUTTON: A selfish, greedy person given to excessive indulgence, especially voracious eating. Gluttony in any form is diametrically opposed to Bible precepts and principles.
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'where do you draw the line on being overweight? 5lbs over? 10? 20? 50? 100? 200? The person who is 200 lbs overweight may not eat anymore than a thin person or the person who is 10 or 20 lbs overweight. '
Don't forget that we're talking bible and wt policy here. Your question should be answered from the bible and the millie in which it was written. I'm not aware of any studies of what paul would consider gluttony.
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Brother Apostate
The person who is 200 lbs overweight may not eat anymore than a thin person or the person who is 10 or 20 lbs overweight.
True, however, the person who is overweight is not active enough or exercising enough to burn the calories they consume. They need to cut down on eating, become much more active, or both.
That makes all the difference in the world. That is why the thin person is thin, and the fat person is fat. Calories in must equal calories out (burned) or there will be weight gain.
BA- It's simple.
PS- And yes, gluttony, just like any other form of greed, is a sin.
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FlyingHighNow
The person who is 200 lbs overweight may not eat anymore than a thin person or the person who is 10 or 20 lbs overweight.
True, however, the person who is overweight is not active enough or exercising enough to burn the calories they consume. They need to cut down on eating, become much more active, or both.
You cannot say this is so in all individual cases. People differ. Some people walk and run miles per week and are careful with caloric intake and still are considered overweight. You cannot be this simplistic with every individual. Well, you can, but then you aren't being accurate.
And what you describe is not gluttony. You are speaking of metabolism of calories aided by exercise.
My point is, you cannot say a person is a glutton based on his or her weight or size. How much a person exercises or doesn't excercise has nothing to do with whether or not that person is a glutton.
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