The new book study arrangement...what it could mean

by undercover 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • undercover
    undercover

    I cannot see the financial benefit to the Society as a whole.

    It might be as you said, an experiment, however, it is a dangerous one because 90% of the JWs are unlikely to spend that evening in Family Worship.

    Did you notice in the GB letter that Family Worship was capitalized?

    There may not be a real monetary benefit, I was just speculating. But I sense a re-grouping and re-organizing. If numbers are down, and profits (contributions) are down, you find ways to cut back and trim the budget while at the same time reorgainze management.

    One of the problems they have is that they're losing elders. So one "cost-cutting" measure that may not save dollars per se, is to make the load lighter on elders. Eliminate a night of traveling and dressing up. Spread the book study conducting over the entire body over time and maybe this can help stop the bleeding of elders. Risky with possible adverse side effects. Another indication that they're getting desperate.

    Like you said, it's dangerous...because many of the JWs are not going to follow the Family Worship program any more than they're having dedicated family studies now. ( I did notice that it was captalized but didn't think about the import of it until you mentioned it...good catch).

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free
    Relaxing is the new fornication.

    I guess that makes me a slut.

    But what this creates is a lack of community feeling between the friends.

    I think that's what they want - a program of progressive isolation. First they isolate their members from the "world", then from their "worldly" families, then from those who leave. They actively discourage large gatherings. If an activity isn't watchtower-centric, it is discouraged. Congregation "get-togethers" are on the decrease. I don't think they want their members to have friends, even within the congregations. Friendship involves a sense of loyalty, and in a time of decreasing membership they don't want anyone loyal to anything but the cult itself.

    W

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    I remember the WTS thinking they would net more "contributions" but requiring a contribution box be kept at the book study location. It was direct from the CO to the elders. Never a penny......................

    Rule no. 1- Always follow the money. Here I was trying to figure out how they save much
    money on this. I will stand by my thought that it allows easier merging of congs. in the
    future, but Blondie reminded me of the more direct route to follow the money.

    Bookstudy groups donate money to the congregation. In order to have them donate money
    to the worldwide work, they would need two boxes. Many only have one (or even none).
    Even a bookstudy at the hall rarely collects money or collects a trifling amount. If any
    publishers remember their contributions from the field at their bookstudy group (or at the
    same private home when it's a meeting for field service), they will sometimes put their
    contributions in the single box at that home. Typically, the money goes to local needs and
    not to WTS.

    So, eliminating a meeting where virtually no money goes to the WTS, but encouraging all to
    stay at the evening meeting for it- this might get a tiny bit more money into the proper box.
    It certainly won't cost the organization anythng.

    Plus- they will come out with new books at a much slower rate, so they have to slow the
    bookstudy down by reducing the time there. Who's going to show up for a 25-30 minute
    meeting? Plenty will, but plenty would not. Better to change it completely and act like you
    are doing it "for them."

  • Anator
    Anator

    No home book study means less and less socialization for everyone. Over the years they have eliminated all sorts of get togethers. Remember the elimination of large social gatherings? Any type of social gathering that may have resulted in uncleaness of some sort was now considered potentially dangerous to have. Over time, people were paranoid of having social gatherings and social gatherings went from little to none. I believe people in general are social people and this change (BS arrangement) will result in people feeling more withdrawn, more lonely and will create the fading away of more members. In turn this will create more guilt trips, in turn destroying self esteem in congregation members, in turn more will miss meetings, in turn will create more guilt trips ect....

    I always found the guilt trips they put on people was very bad for your self esteem. Rather than promoting confidence in the congregation as a whole, the guilt trips creates a sense of "I know your guilty you low lifes!" and the feeling that they immediatley don't trust you. So now they have put you in a position of proving it to them and now you feel you have the need to please them, which I found by the way you could never do.

  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    Aren't they already selling off KHs in the States? I got an email from an elder in the States who gave me a detailed up date from the AGM and how the Society in the NYC area had a massive meeting with all of the elders and they're consolidating congregations into fewer KHs and selling off the KHs that are in areas where there are few publishers. In the Bronx they've built a 2 story KH with more on the way.

    Fewer meetings, shorter meetings allows them to cram more congregations into fewer buildings, sell the surplus KHs, and correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the WTS own the KHs anyway?

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    PasswordProtected

    Wow - hail Theocacy's increase!!!!

  • watson
    watson

    Dear Brothers,

    Many are finding that Family Study Night is a joyous blessing from the Faithful Slave. Have you found it to be so?

    Starting in the January 2009 Kingdom Ministry, look for a new and exciting monthly feature.

    "Making the Most of your Family Study Night." In this new column you will find helpful suggestions from the Slave on how to make this blessed evening even more productive.

    Not only will there be weekly "suggested reading," but helpful ideas on how you can keep your family moving in the same direction of Jehovah's loyal organization.

    Service meetings throughout January will have planned demonstrations to help you make the most of these fine suggestions.

    Your Brothers

    The Governing Body

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Regular Christendom has known for some time that "small groups" is the key to church community and church growth.

    http://www.christianity.co.nz/church6.htm

    Meeting in the larger institutional setting is just too impersonal. More people will fall through the cracks.

  • blondie
    blondie

    How about a KH like this?

    http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/309984

    No need to dress up for some Wisconsin churches

    DOUG ERICKSON
    608-252-6149
    October 17, 2008

    WAUNAKEE — A couple of months ago, St. Andrew Lutheran Church wanted to do something different to attract parishioners, especially those put off by the rituals and trappings of traditional churches.

    So it ripped up its pews and filled the sanctuary with an eclectic mix of earth-tone love seats, sleek armchairs and coffeehouse tables.

    The communion rail came down, and the pulpit went out the door, replaced by a stone-slab table with a base made from a neighbor's fallen tree. The newly added cappuccino machine and coffee grinder look just like the ones at Kwik Trip — indeed, they were donated by Kwik Trip.

    "There are plenty of churches in Waunakee and plenty of Christians who already have churches in Waunakee. We wanted to target the people who aren't churched," said Kristen Koepsell, worship director.

    This relaxed approach, in which God doesn't care about your posture or your caffeine addiction, has taken hold in numerous churches, although St. Andrew may be taking it to a new level. Many churches now offer at least one service with a looser, more conversational format, often involving a live band.

    "There's a trend toward people being more interested in approaching the spiritual and sacred on their own terms," said Robert Glenn Howard, a UW-Madison associate professor in communication arts and religious studies.

    This suggests a de-emphasis on the institutional components of religion, including the formal setting itself, Howard said. The Internet is fueling part of this change. People expect their voices to be heard — they're used to contributing to online forums — so there's a shift away from a top-down, centralized approach, he said.

    "It's all part of the idea that the most important thing is for the individual to connect with the divine, and it doesn't really matter if you do that with a 19th-century hymn or a rock 'n' roll song," Howard said.

    The Waunakee church, 5757 Emerald Grove Lane, was built in 1990 as Lord and Savior Evangelical Lutheran Church. But the congregation never really took off. "We weren't reaching out into the community very well," said Dick Bernards, a former president.

    So two years ago, St. Andrew Lutheran Church in Middleton took over the church's assets and began operating it as a satellite location with the same name.

    St. Andrew is now considered one congregation with two buildings. This gave church leaders the opportunity to try something different in Waunakee without risking a lot, said the Rev. Randy Hunter, who serves both churches.

    "It's not intended to be disrespectful of anyone's desire to worship in a more formal setting, but we know that for many people, that's just not their thing," he said.

    The Middleton location continues to hold a traditional worship service, while the Waunakee site experiments with a laid-back structure.

    Hunter's sermon is videotaped at an early Sunday service in Middleton, then broadcast on large screens later in the morning at Waunakee. After the sermon concludes, Waunakee parishioners talk about it in small groups, then a layperson brings them back together for a brief discussion.

    The congregation's motto is "Casual about church, serious about God." Communion is still offered every week.

    "The message is the same, it's just repackaged in a way that may be a little more inviting for some people," Hunter said.

    Gene Berg, a founding member of Lord and Savior Evangelical Lutheran Church, said he likes a traditional worship service but is giving the casual approach a try. He appreciates that prayers and religious readings are still part of the Waunakee service.

    "I'm getting there. I'm warming up to it," he said.

    St. Andrew spent about $40,000 on the remodeling, including the services of a professional design consultant. Many parishioners pitched in, including Sarah Homan, who helped select the contemporary furniture by visiting local coffeehouses and Barnes & Noble.

    Inspiration for the stone table with the tree-trunk base came from a desire to replicate the simplicity of ancient worship services, Homan said. "We really went back to the Bible, to books from Genesis to Revelation that talk about wood and stone altars," she said.

    In many ways, the changes are a return to basics — the opposite of a modern approach, Hunter said. "It's keeping it real. You can't hide behind a pulpit or a robe."

    The Waunakee sanctuary seats 65 and so far has been averaging about 50 people each Sunday, including some unfamiliar faces.

    "Personally, I'll gauge our success by how many new people come through the door who haven't been going to a church," Hunter said. "If it becomes a place where current members just want to hang out because it's cool, then I don't think we will have succeeded."

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    ..It means..Fast Spiritual Food......"McPublic Talk" 30 minutes.."McWatchtower Study" 45 minutes..Get them in,Get them out..Get the next batch of JW`s into the Kingdom hall,for a "McSpiritual Feast"....................................Laughing Mutley...OUTLAW

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