My wife was in major JW mode last night, a few questions/comments I had

by insearchoftruth 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • dinah
    dinah

    Thanks, what really gets me is when she starts to discuss the Trinity as three Gods and I tell her that there is only one God, well she will then say that there is one Almighty God, Jehovah, Jesus is a Mighty God, so therefore two Gods, it is definitely circular reasoning.

    I don't believe I ever heard them state that about Jesus. Usually he is an afterthought. He chose the FDS and skipped town.

    About the 15 year old. He will balk on his own, I'm sure. How would you like going from normal kid to freak overnight? It's one thing if an adult wants to screw-up their life, but leave the children out of this madness.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    She is at the point where she will only look at WTS literature, so I need to ask leading questions.....I have gotten her to tell me she believes that the WTS was selected by Jesus as the FDS in 1918/1919, now I need to find a way to start to show her what they were believing at that time, I am pretty sure that the library has Proclaimers, and I know it is so WATERED DOWN, but at least it is a current book that she won't immediately point to as old light......I also think that the blood issue is at least making her think...

    As for the son, that is the tack I am going to take, it will get really ugly for a bit, but I have asked her to read what the WTS says about this on thier website, in the WTs and in the family happiness book, she has not yet, for I think she knows what she will find.

  • dinah
    dinah

    ISOT,

    You will be referred to as an "opposing mate" or an unbelieving mate, said with a tone of pity to your wife. They will instruct her to teach the boy at every opportunity. They will use the argument that as his mother she has the duty before Jehovah to teach him the things she has learned. It is her job to make his paths straight and make sure he makes the truth his own.

    I've seen a husband's headship fly out the window when it interfere's with the Governing Body's headship.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth
    You will be referred to as an "opposing mate" or an unbelieving mate, said with a tone of pity to your wife.

    Pretty sure I have already reached this 'status', the sister never calls our house, only communicates with my wife via her cell phone, and never when she is at home. I met with the sister and her husband (who happens to be the PO) and even though they say to ask questions, I think I asked to many for them, and some hard ones for them to answer, so they have pretty much written me off.

    I understand what you say about GB headship, normally would not be a huge issue until the JW is baptized, but my wife was brought up around JWs, so already a bit of mind-control has been done, she refuses to read any non-WTS literature when it comes to spiritual matters, which makes it quite difficult to show her anything, and she is already 'enthralled' with the way the organization is willing to change when they 'learn new things from Jehovah'. I thought God is never changing.........

    She has already said it is her duty to teach him what she is learning....he has had some problems in the past, and our neighbor could have called the police and had him arrested, but she agreed not to if he got counseling, well my wife feels a JW bible study will meet this requirement.....I am going to have a talk with the neighbor and have her ask if the counseling has done any good, she has no affinity at all for the JWs, so I know this will not be acceptable to her...at all......

  • Mary
    Mary
    Well not sure how we got on the topic of blood, but we did so I asked her if I needed to assign someone other than her for my medical power of attorney to ensure that if I am injured that the medical professionals would do ALL they could to preserve my life....she looked quite perplexed and said she will need to get back to me on that. I then asked her if she realized that the WTS now has blood fractions as a matter of conscience...well she said that the Bible is black and white on issues, there is no in between....well I asked her what are fractions then. I also asked her if the WTS and the Bible say that blood should not be stored, but poured out on the ground....she said she didn't know....well I asked her how fractions are derived.....

    Well now she was in a tail spin and I pretty much left her to go.....she is thinking, but I will guaranty you when she heads off to work, she will call the study sister or someone else in the congregation for information.


    ISoT, do you have a copy of my project? If so, I would strongly recommend printing off the section on "blood" and let her read that. The Society is always claiming that blood transfusions were not known in bible times, when in fact, they were.

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth

    Thanks Mary, do have a copy of it and I since she will not read anything that is not WTS stuff, I am pretty much just spoon feeding her the information from your project, which is wonderful!!!!!

    She is pretty non-dubby today, but am pretty sure she will be going to the meeting tonight, gag!

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    "Convince a man against his will He's of the same opinion still."

    she has to WANT to find truth. But if you continue to show LOVE she may start asking GOD for it

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth
    she has to WANT to find truth. But if you continue to show LOVE she may start asking GOD for it

    Very true Mouthy......so many have told me just tell her what to do, you can not tell someone what to believe!

  • Vachi 8 He Is
    Vachi 8 He Is

    I hate major JW mode. My aunt does that. It's like on average we aren't talking much at all about what Jerkovah says then all of a sudden BAM! I'll be on my way to dropping her off at the diamond lanes and she'll go "Turn the radio down, I'm gonna read the daily text." Arghhhhhhhhh!!

  • insearchoftruth
    insearchoftruth
    I'm gonna read the daily text.

    That was definitely Sunday and even the first part of yesterday...today she is a bit better, but meeting tonight will dub her up again....drats!

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