"They're all lies made up to get research grants."
That is in itself a dishonest answer.
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"They're all lies made up to get research grants."
That is in itself a dishonest answer.
These are some of the most important scientific discoveries of all time. It’s pretty cool because you can proof every one of them.
Personally, Satan the Devil it’s a pretty intelligent individual. I have no idea how he finds out time to do all the bad things that happens in the world. Its looks like he is pretty busy making this things up.
1. The Planets Move (2000 B.C. – 500 B.C.)
A thousand years of observations reveal that there are stars that move in the sky and follow patterns, showing that the Earth is part of a solar system of planets separate from the fixed stars.
2. The Earth Moves (1543)
Nicolaus Copernicus places the sun, not the Earth, at the center of the solar system.
3. Planetary Orbits Are Elliptical (1605 – 1609)
Johannes Kepler devises mathematical laws that successfully and accurately predict the motions of the planets in elliptical orbits.
4. Jupiter Has Moons (1609 – 1612)
Galileo Galilei discovers that Jupiter has moons like the Earth, proving that Copernicus, not Ptolemy, is right. Copernicus believes that Earth is not unique, but instead resembles the other planets, all of which orbit the sun.
5. Halley's Comet Has a Predictable Orbit (1705 – 1758)
Edmund Halley proves that comets orbit the sun like the planets and successfully predicts the return of Halley's Comet. He determines that comets seen in 1531 and 1607 are the same object following a 76-year orbit. Halley's prediction is proven in 1758 when the comet returns. Unfortunately, Halley had died in 1742, missing the momentous event.
6. The Milky Way Is a Gigantic Disk of Stars (1780 – 1834)
Telescope-maker William Herschel and his sister Carolyn map the entire sky and prove that our solar system resides in a gigantic disk of stars that bulges in the center called the Milky Way. Herschel's technique involves taking a sample count of stars in the field of view of his telescope. His final count shows more than 90,000 stars in 2,400 sample areas. Later studies confirm that our galaxy is disk-shaped, but find that the sun is not near the center and that the system is considerably larger than Herschel's estimation.
7. General Relativity (1915 – 1919)
Albert Einstein unveils his theory of general relativity in which he proposes that mass warps both time and space, therefore large masses can bend light. The theory is proven in 1919 by astronomers using a solar eclipse as a test.
8. Microorganisms (1674)
Microscope lens grinder Anton Van Leeuwenhoek accidentally discovers microorganisms in a drop of water. Using his own microscopes, he observes sperm, bacteria and red blood cells. His observations lay the foundation for the sciences of bacteriology and microbiology.
9. The Krebs Cycle (1937)
Hans Krebs identifies the many steps the cell takes to convert sugars, fats and proteins into energy. Also known as the citric acid cycle, it is a series of chemical reactions using oxygen as part of cellular respiration. The cycle contributes to the breakdown of carbohydrates, fats and proteins into carbon dioxide and water.
10. Atomic Theory (1808)
John Dalton provides a way of linking invisible atoms to measurable quantities like the volume of a gas or mass of a mineral. His atomic theory states that elements consist of tiny particles called atoms. Thus, a pure element consists of identical atoms, all with the same mass, and compounds consist of atoms of different elements combined together.
11. Chemical Structure (1850s)
Friedrich Kekule figures out the chemical structure of benzene, bringing the study of molecular structure to the forefront of chemistry. He writes that after years of studying the nature of carbon-carbon bonds, he came up with the ring shape of the benzene molecule after dreaming of a snake seizing its own tail. The unusual structure solves the problem of how carbon atoms can bond with up to four other atoms at the same time.
12. Electricity Transforms Chemicals (1807 – 1810)
Humphry Davy finds that electricity transforms chemicals. He uses an electric pile (an early battery) to separate salts by a process now known as electrolysis. With many batteries he is able to separate elemental potassium and sodium in calcium, strontium, barium and magnesium.
13. Earth's Core (1906)
Seismologist Richard Oldham determines that earthquake waves move through the central part of the Earth much slower than through the mantle around it. He surmises that the Earth has a core composed of liquid.
14. Continental Drift (1911)
Alfred Wegener proposes that all the continents in the world once formed a single, giant landmass that was eventually split apart in a process called "continental drift." Wegener's evidence consists of the "fit" of South America with Africa, fossil distribution and geological similarities.
15. Seafloor Spreading (1950s – 1960s)
Adding his own data on changes in seafloor depth and geology to discoveries of his peers, Harry Hess proposes that Wegener's theory of continental drift is a result of seafloor spreading. He hypothesizes that molten magma from beneath the Earth's crust is oozing up between the plates in the Great Global Rift (now referred to as the Mid-Ocean Ridge). As the hot magma cools, it expands and pushes the plates out from the rift, causing the Atlantic Ocean to get wider over time.
16. Plate Tectonics (1960s)
The work of many scientists reveals that the Earth's surface is broken into several interconnected plates of rock. Earth's outermost layer, the lithosphere, is broken into at least seven large, rigid pieces. These plates are moving in different directions and at different speeds (about 1 to 4 inches per year) and are crashing together, pulling apart and sideswiping each other. All the action at plate boundaries produces phenomena such as mountains, volcanoes and earthquakes.
17. Troposphere and Stratosphere (1890s)
With the aid of scientific instruments placed on unmanned balloons, Leon Teisserenc de Bort discovers that the atmosphere consists of layers. Bort notices that air temperature decreases steadily up to about seven miles, but remains constant at higher altitudes. After more than 200 balloon experiments, he suggests that the atmosphere is divided into two layers called the "troposphere" and the "stratosphere."
18. K-T Asteroid Theory of Dinosaur Extinction (1980)
Walter Alvarez postulates that high levels of iridium found in rock core samples around the world provide evidence that an asteroid impact caused the extinction of dinosaurs. Iridium, a common mineral found in asteroids, was discovered in the clay layer at what is known as the K-T boundary. This layer, at 65 million years, lies between the rocks of the Cretaceous and the Tertiary periods and coincides with the mass extinction of dinosaurs.
19. Potential for Life Created (1953)
Graduate student Stanley Miller, combining the ideas of other scientists, reproduces the early atmosphere of Earth by creating a chamber containing only hydrogen, water, methane and ammonia. He boils the water and exposes the elements to an electric discharge like lightning, simulating Earth's early processes. After a week, Miller finds organic compounds have formed, including some amino acids, the "building blocks of life."
20. New Life-forms Discovered Around Hydrothermal Vents (1977)
Bob Ballard and the crew of the submersible Alvin find amazing new life-forms living completely independent of the sun's energy around deep-sea, hydrothermal vents. These undersea geysers form along volcanic mid-ocean ridges, where cold seawater penetrates deep into cracks in the Earth's crust. Heated water rises back out and the scalding vent water mixes with cold ocean-bottom seawater, creating a rising plume of warm, black fluid filled with mineral particles. The chemicals support a thriving ecosystem on the ocean floor.
21. The Burgess Shale (1909)
Charles Walcott exposes a mother lode of Cambrian fossils high in the Canadian Rocky Mountains, providing a glimpse of what life was like on Earth more than 500 million years ago. He collects more than 65,000 specimens and classifies each, discovering that the fossils are ancestors of living animals.
22. Rules of Heredity (1850s)
Austrian monk and botanist Gregor Mendel discovers how genetic information is passed down through generations. In experiments performed on pea plants, he notices that characteristics of a plant's offspring, such as height, exhibit recessive and dominant behavior. Mendel's findings are ridiculed during his lifetime and he dies never knowing that he would come to be known as the "father of genetics."
23. Genes Are Located on Chromosomes (1910 – 1920s)
Thomas Hunt Morgan discovers that genes are located on chromosomes. Working on fruit flies, he concludes that certain traits are linked to gender and that those traits are probably carried on one of the sex chromosomes (X or Y). He hypothesizes that other genes are also carried on specific chromosomes. Using chromosome recombination, he and his students map the locations of genes on chromosomes. Morgan and his students write the seminal book The Mechanism of Mendelian Heredity.
24. Universal Gravitation (1666)
Isaac Newton comes to the conclusion that all objects in the universe, from apples to planets, exert gravitational attraction on each other.
25. Laws of Motion (1687)
Isaac Newton changes our understanding of the universe by formulating three laws to describe the movement of objects. 1) An object in motion remains in motion unless an external force is applied to it. 2) The relationship between an object's mass (m), its acceleration (a) and the applied force (F) is F = ma. 3) For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
26. The Second Law of Thermodynamics (1824 – 1850)
Scientists working to improve the efficiency of steam engines develop an understanding of the conversion of heat into work. They learn that the flow of heat from higher to lower temperatures is what drives a steam engine, likening the process to the flow of water that turns a mill wheel. Their work leads to three principles: heat flows spontaneously from a hot to a cold body; heat cannot be completely converted into other forms of energy; and systems become more disorganized over time.
27. Electromagnetism (1807 – 1873)
Pioneering experiments uncover the relationship between electricity and magnetism and lead to a set of equations that express the basic laws governing them. One of those experiments unexpectedly yields results in a classroom. In 1820, Danish physicist Hans Christian Oersted is speaking to students about the possibility that electricity and magnetism are related. During the lecture, an experiment demonstrates the veracity of his theory in front of the whole class.
28. Special Relativity (1905)
Albert Einstein overthrows basic assumptions about time and space by describing how clocks tick slower and distances appear to stretch as objects approach the speed of light.
29. E = mc^2 (1905)
Or energy is equal to mass times the speed of light squared. Albert Einstein's famous formula proves that mass and energy are different manifestations of the same thing, and that a very small amount of mass can be converted into a very large amount of energy. One profound implication of his discovery is that no object with mass can ever go faster than the speed of light.
30. The Quantum Leap (1900 – 1935)
To describe the behavior of subatomic particles, a new set of natural laws is developed by Max Planck, Albert Einstein, Werner Heisenberg and Erwin Schrodinger. A quantum leap is defined as the change of an electron within an atom from one energy state to another. This change happens all at once, not gradually.
Take care,
Ismael
But equally unassailable
Science is not religion. Nothing is unassailable. It may be proven wrong yet again, but it's not above investigation. The history of science is littered with the wreckage of great ideas that were undone by new information.
I was looking on I think, Quotes site, and was reading random medical quotes from the WT and there was one there that said that "germs never caused ANY disease" and that it was a lie... The year?? 1920s or 30s (I forget).
Then I looked up "germ theory of disease" online and found that knowledge of EXACTLY what germs did had been around for decades... (hundreds of years depending on how you define it).
Those JW writers sure are on the cusp of the scientific wave. I am so glad we have them around to cut through all of the lies...
So laughable from people that are educated to the 5th grade, know nothing of science or academia.
Their response? "They're all lies made up to get research grants."
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
Your JW friend has the truth on that one.
No one knows how old the earth is.
Carbon dating is like circular reasoning.
They set the way back machine based on their guess of the age of the stone to determine the age of the fossil.
They set the way back machine based on their guess of the age of the fossil to determine the age of the stone.
No one knows how old the stone or fosil is so dating can not be real.
This is common knowledge that I have been aware of since the 80's.
You can read about it in the book Secret HIstory of the World by Laura Knight Jadcyk.
And Forbidden History edited by J. Douglas Kenyon.
Neither are promoting Creationism or Christianity.
from the Secret History of the World and How to get out alive by Laura Knight-Jadczyk page 119&120
A few words about radiometric dating .
If we are going to investigate time, we will be confronted with the issues of dates, those markers of time, and how these dates are established.
The most widely used method for determining the age of the rock strata is to date them by the "known age" of the fossils they contain. In this "circular dating" method, all ages are based on uniformitarian assumptions about the date and order in which fossilized plants and animals are believed to have evolved. Most people are surprised to learn that there is, in fact, no way to directly determine the age of any fossil or rock. The so called "absolute" methods of dating (radiometric methods) actually only measure the present ratios of radioactive isotopes and their decay products in suitable specimens- not their age. These measured ratios are then extrapolated to an "age" determination.
The problem with all radiometric"clocks" is that their accuracy critically depends on several starting assumptions, which are largely unknowable. To date a specimen by radiometric means, one must first know the starting amount of the parent isotope at the beginning of the specimens existence. Second, one must be certain that there were no daughter isotopes in the beginning. Third, one must be certain that neither parent nor daughter isotopes have ever been added or removed from the specimen. Fourth, one must be certain that the decay rate of parent isotope to daughter isotope has always been the same. That one or more of these assumptions are often invalid is obvious from the published radiometric "dates"( to say nothing of the "rejected" dates) found in the literature.
One of the most obvious problems is that several samples from the same location often give widely divergent ages. Apollo moon samples, for example, were dated by both uranium-thorium-lead and potassium-argon methods, giving results, which varied from 2 million to 28 billion years. Lava flows from volcanoes on the north rim of the Grand, Canyon (which erupted after its formation) show potassium-argon dates a billion years older than the most ancient basement rocks at the bottom of the canyon. Lava from underwater volcanoes near Hawaii (that are known to have erupted in 1801 AD) has been "dated" by the potassium-argon method with results varying from 160 million to nearly 3 billion years. It's really no wonder that all of the laboratories that "date" rocks insist on knowing in advance the "evolutionary age" of the strata from which the samples were taken- this way, they know which dates to accept as "reasonable" and which to ignore.
Concrete matter of fact, no Bullshxt history pretty much begins with the Summerians in the last 10,000 years.
There is evidence throught the world that there was a world wide flood. Plato spoke of it. He called it Atlantis.
Tribes and people through out the world speak of it.
There is a chapter in the book Forbidden history edited by Douglas kenyon called evidence for the flood.
And there is a chapter Darwins demise.
The schools are run by the government who have an interest in keeping people stupid.
If people knew the truth of our origens, government and society would collapse.
Science regarding evolutioin and carbon dating, is just like religion it doesn not stand up to the scientific method or intelligent analysis.
A person can go to college for a lifetime and be and educated fool if all he does is believe and think like he is told.
It is part of the disinformation that the masters are prepetrating on socitey.
In the book Forbidden history edited by J. Douglas Kenyon on page 286 it says,
"A report by the Brookings Institution commissioned by Nassa... examines the impact of NASA discoveries on American Society ten, twenty, thirty years down the road... it makes the recommendation that for fear of social, dislocation and the disintegration of society that Nasa not tell the American people"
Our government is not going to tell us what is going on.
They have an interest to keep us in the dark.
These are some of the most important scientific discoveries of all time. It’s pretty cool because you can proof every one of them.
Personally, Satan the Devil it’s a pretty intelligent individual. I have no idea how he finds out time to do all the bad things that happens in the world. Its looks like he is pretty busy making this things up.
If those things you mention are provable then they are true.
But dating the earth is not provable.
Dating the earth is a theory that has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
And life arising from inanimate matter is not provable.
Having said that I will say this.
I am not saying the earth is not old.
I dont know how old it is.
But there is no way to date it.
And there is world wide evidence of a flood.
And recorded history is less than 10,000 years old.
If someone says these bones or this tool is 100,000 years old they are talking trash because there is no way to date it.
Man poped up in Sumeria and was pretty advanced and intelligent and he wrote things down. And he said that people from space were dealing with him. And he drew pictures of the spacemen.
This is just an excuse by the Washtowel Slaveholdery corporation to prevent its slaves from benefiting from science. You see, without the FDA and similar regulators protecting profits of established companies, there would be even more scientific breakthroughs. And they wouldn't be motivated by money--who that has lost a spouse wouldn't want to bring that spouse back themselves?
And I don't think greed had anything to do with the scientists that got things off the ground. I wonder how much Einstein made on his theories. Yet, they are the basis for nuclear power. Or Edison--did he seek selfish greed only when inventing things, or did he see the opportunity to fulfill a need by inventing things? I wonder how much Edison made off his light bulbs--yet, they are still in common use.
Lies? Or, perhaps (if they were set free from regulators) are they motivated by the desire to make the world a better place? Which the Washtowel Babble and Crap Slaveholdery couldn't tolerate. Find a way to use science and medicine to make a person live forever in perfect health and resurrect the dead, and that person can do as they please without having to worry about pleasing Almighty Baghead (and likely it would be much cheaper--say, the cost of an excellent vitamin supplement). Or, what would happen if I found a cure for one disease with the intention of benefiting one person, and it catches and helps everyone? That would be that much less of a "need" for the New Dark Ages.
What is actually lies made up for money comes from the Washtowel and Asleep magazines. The Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger makes these things up to threaten death and destruction to get people in, and then keeps them in with busting up families and death threats. That is where the lies are that are made up for money, not just science.
Stupidity is not unique to the "loyal" dubs. (see above)