The watchtower bible and tract society holds title to:

by Quirky1 9 Replies latest jw friends

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  Quirky1

  I was just poking around on the internet and ran across this....waddya think?

  Properties in brooklyn new york;
  Facility near Walkill, NY;
  Agricultural Farmland (3-6 Sections) near Walkill, NY;
  Educational Center @ Patterson, NY
  Branch office properties in Toronto Canada, England, Europe; some parts of Africa; Most of the countries of South America; New Zealand, Austrailia, Indonesia, the Philipines, Japan, and Tiawan.
  The watchtower bible and tract society holds title to Notes secured by real estate on tens of thousands of properties as a result of "quick build" kingdom halls and renovations on other similar properties. (aggregate amount of notes estimated in 2004 to be in excess of $11,000,000,000 in the United States alone)
  Current estimate of existing market prices would place the value of the notes held in the United States in the neighborhood of $30 to $40 Billion as of 5-13-08
  World wide the estimate aggregate value of real estate and debentures held would be in the neighborhood of $300 to $600 Billion. This does not include Owned or subsidized commercial operations. Those would increase that value by 25% to 50% more.
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  hubert

  Do you have any links for this? I'd love to print them out.

  Hubert
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  sir82

  Source? Link?

  Pretty incredible if true...then again, who is it making these claims? Someone who knows, or just making $#!+ up?
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  blondie

  By notes, you mean based on money loaned to and still owing on properties held by congregations?

  My understanding is that once these loans are paid off that the "ownership" reverts to the non-profit corporation (congregation) holding the territory the KH building is on until such time that congregation is dissolved wherein the WTS as the larger non-profit corporation now makes decisions over but does not own (non-profit corporations are not "owned").
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  Quirky1

  This was an anonymous response at a website called answerbag. I just googled the question.
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  Witness 007

  So why do they need my $50 bucks....bastards!
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  Jeremy C

  It raises a very simple question. What purpose do these large properties around the world serve? The printing and distribution of literature. This is the main purpose and mission of the organization. It is the continuance of a tradition that started with C.T. Russell. Publishing literature was the sole reason as to why the WTBTS was founded in the first place.

  I would have to say that after a century of publishing literature; a membership of six and a half million is paltry. How effective is this publishing and distribution model? Not very much. Think about what could be accomplished if that real estate wealth had been used to utilize television, radio, and internet witnessing. If this is the most important message in all of human history, why aren't more effective methods such as these being used? Because that does not fit into the organization's traditional model: door-to-door distribution of literature.

  Ray Franz noted that this tradition of printing and distributing literature has become the the benchmark by which the Governing Body measures success. The more printing; the better. The output of literature has been the standard which measures God's blessing on the organization. It is a badge of merit.

  You see, most religionists are impressed and moved by what is appealing the eyes; whether it be large ornate temples, huge cathedrals, or the visual presence of the Vatican. Jehovah's Witnesses are no different. They are impressed and wooed by large printing operations and shipping depots. They are moved by large sprawling branch complexes which house the people who operate the printing equipment.

  These real estate holdings serve more of a psychological need than a pragmatic one. Just ask yourself one question: if Jesus really did not appoint the Watchtower organization as his eartlhy agent in 1919; what does it mean for all of these billions of dollars worth of printeries and warehouses?
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  hamsterbait

  One elduh said to me the end is obviously very near, as the printing presses are vomiting out over 80 thousand bundles of rubbish every hour.

  HB
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  sacolton

  So why do they need my $50 bucks....bastards!

  This helps pay for the full-service the Governing Body receives for room cleaning, laundry, food service, chauffeur, manicures, pedicures, healthcare and much, much more. They need your love. As for worldwide properties, the Governing Body (USA) would bail if things went to shit in this country and move to another location without much fuss - leaving all the R&F to fend for themselves. Seriously, they would have no problem with this arrangement.
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  Quirky1

  If Randy is reading this site today maybe he can shed some light on it.