Elders called-Want to 'get together'....Hmmmmm (page 2)

ChuckD

I would think "Hello" much more appropriate than "Good-Bye" when someone makes the step of moving on into the real world. Remember, the very worst thing they can do to you simply frees you from their power.

Chuck

ashitaka

Hey rek, I'm already marked, my wife included. People won't say hi to us now, but I'm kind of enjoying the chase, if you know what I mean. Little ol' me wasn't important while I was a true dub, now that I'm an 'apostate' I'm the most important figure in their minds..LOLOLOL. Self-defeating, don't you think?

Trust me, I've only talked to one person about my feelings, so no two people can get together with evidence. In fact, I actually said those words to my father, knowing full well that he would repeat them to the elders. I'm taunting them.

"COME AND GET IT!!!"

lol

ashi

P.S.-I'm doing this to try to find a good spot, where I can have an independent witness to the DF proceeding, and possibly videotape it. THAT would be sweet. Especially since my platform is that my leaving is not a question of doctrine. It's a 'question of people'.

P.P.S.-Nelly, too true, I found out later that my father had arranged it as an accident. Kind of hard, though, since I live in a different area code. I wasn't fooled for a minute. In fact the elder called looking for 'DADDY' to get his time for the month. I al first thought the caller was a telemarketer, because my father is a cosigner on an old loan with me, and I sometimes get calls for 'special offers' from places. LOLOL Not such a special offer this time.

rekless

Hello good-bye if you want out that is greatand I (applude???)you.
I feel like a human being and a very good guy since I left the org.

I know you will too.

OUTLAW

Hey Ashi,If you stay away from them and tell them to stay away from you,theres nothing they can do.Their left holding an empty bag,and theres nothing they can do about it.You`ll frusterate the hell out of them.Its fun..MERRY CHRISTMAS ASHI...OUTLAW

ashitaka

OUTLAW....

I know.

Tee-hee.

Ashi

P.S.-Merry Christmas right back to you, Out.

Satanus

Ashi

When whatever happens, is finished, you can always threaten them with court if you hear that you are dfd. That has worked for some. They get left alone while not being categorized dfd and socially cut off. In dfing repercussions, the elders themselves are left holding the bag, not the wt. At least the wt is a lot harder to get at.

Best wishes SS

Unclepenn1

Hey Ashi, if you could videotape the encounter that would be Sa-weet! I have one from Gloria Muscarella that is about 4+ hours long and it is so interesting watching these guys squirm as she hits them with real ltruth. What you should do is gather all the facts about the UN thing that you can and other blatant deceptions and spring it on them while taping it. I would love to see it. Also check out disfellowshipped.org and read those encounters. Get really good at refuting them and just have fun with it. Oh yes, and let all of us see it too!

Penn

Hey SS, I just replied to our discussion. Sorry, I have been in Mexico for a week. Peace

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=15723&page=3&site=3

Pathofthorns

It is easy to forget that these guys are just doing their "job".

There's no need to innitially flip out on them. Usually telling them up front you just need some space for a while and would rather they not contact you is sufficient. When they ask why, just say that the reasons are "personal and private".

Alternatives are insisting all correspondence with you be in writing. Generally, for legal reasons, the Society discourages any sort of written correspondence with people like yourself and they tend to leave you alone.

If your contact with active Witnesses in the area is minimal, you will be quickly forgotten and "old news".

A judicial committee is unlikely unless you start stating your views openly. Even then, most elders aren't looking to form committees or to disfellowship people.

If you are asked to show up to a committee, you are not obligated to attend. It is good to have a reasonable perspective of what these committees are about and how they work before you have grandiose ideas of presenting your well thought out arguments to them.

A judicial committee rarely works as most people imagine and it is probable that you will regret playing into their hands by attending and giving them exactly what they want from you - self-incriminating testimony.

Path

bluesapphire

Yes Reckless, that's the way they played it with me. Never a judicial meeting, never an announcement, but suddenly I'm "known" as an apostate and even my own sister wont talk to me. Talk about breaking their own rules. Something I could never prove in court of course. The judge would say, "I can't force people to talk to you, ma'am."

Those sons of bitches are ruthless. They have no consciences. Lawyers run the whole damned mess. But I am waiting .... just like those people who lost loved ones due to tobacco use. Yes, when the cards come tumbling down, I'll be there!

slave

Ask them why? and can you bring a lawyer?

Elders called-Want to 'get together'....Hmmmmm

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