Pathetic manipulation at the Zone Visit to the Mexico Branch (Central America)

by avaddohn94 15 Replies latest jw friends

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  avaddohn94

  GB helper Robert Luccioni paid a visit to the branch that oversees Mexico and Central America and, you can probably imagine all the "excitement" among the witnesses who were tied in via internet.

  This time they really emphasized that none of the information that was shared during such a "magnificent" event was to be posted on social media. The fact that they are becoming more secretive should alert anyone about the dangers posed by cult-like religions but, truth be told, that is a very difficult thing to understand from within.

  Still, this picture might be of help! In the end, Luccioni's objective as representative of the Governing Body was very clear: MONEY! And this time, they mounted a complete play appealing to their sense of shame using the "experience" of an "anonymous" kid whose savings into a piggy bank were sent in support of the worldwide work.

  Next, they actually showed the piggy bank with a bow and then warned all the brothers south of the border once again not to share this information on social media. IMO, there is one word that truly defines all of the above: PATHETIC.

  
  
  

  If you think that a lot of people in Central America (i.e. Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Costa Rica and Belize) live in abject poverty and the fact that according to the World Bank 33% of Mexico's population lives in moderate poverty and 9% in extreme poverty, you can imagine why some of us consider the above a despicable way of manipulating, not just any people, but our families and friends who are still within.

  In the end, they will probably end up sharing this when they start broadcasting in Spanish at tv.jw.org and many will probably say: "you see, there is no secrecy and everything is clearly exposed", however, even if they upload these shameful talks, very few of our friends and dear ones will get a chance to see the wicked agenda of their leaders.

  Best regards,

  Avaddohn94
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  OneEyedJoe

  I don't think they've uploaded any of the other zone visits, so they probably won't share this one.

  I sure hope the cult is hurting for cash as much as it seems. I guess considering that most of the growth these days is in less developed countries, they're having to find new tactics to get blood from a stone. Not long ago, our CO gave a super guilt-trip talk about donating more. He basically said that in a lot of poor places, they end up donating more than they need to cover the cost of the magazines that they use, but in some congregations in the US, they don't even cover the costs. "How bad would you feel if you found out that these brothers living in poverty were subsidizing your literature?" he says.
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  OUTLAW

  "How bad would you feel if you found out that these brothers living in poverty were subsidizing your literature?" he says.

  .....................How Bad Would JW`s "Living In Poverty" Feel..

  ............................................If They Found Out.

  They Were Buying the WBT$ GB Rock Star Popes $40,000.00 Watches??!!

  
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  steve2

  Attachment to animated cartoon characters is an addiction that requires serious interventions, including medication and skills-based psychotherapy, preferably in a long-stay well-catered for residential setting.

  Oh, I see the patient has been admitted already. Let the treatment begin....
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  sir82

  They're either really desperate, or really stupid, to beg money from poverty-stricken Central Americans.

  Hum. Maybe it's "both".
  
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  OneEyedJoe

  They're either really desperate, or really stupid, to beg money from poverty-stricken Central Americans.

  Hum. Maybe it's "both"

  I would posit that a lot of it comes from an incredible sense of entitlement as well. They're god's mouthpiece, so of course these people should be sending money!

  I guess if you think about the tale of the widow giving two coins of little value, it makes sense. She gave out of her need - so of course they're going to beg for money from the people with more need to give out of.
  
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  hoser

  they end up donating more than they need to cover the cost of the magazines that they use, but in some congregations in the US, they don't even cover the costs

  
  

  they didn't mention that the sister walked 20 miles through the jungle and crossed a crocodile infested river to be at the meeting to donate?
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  OrphanCrow

  sir82
  They're either really desperate, or really stupid, to beg money from poverty-stricken Central Americans.

  It isn't so much what the money means to 'them' - it is what it means to those who are poor - the money represents an investment that keeps them invested, not just financially, but also emotionally. The money is symbolic of trust and loyalty and works psychologically in a very real way.

  That small amount of money translates into a high degree of loyalty - in effect, the poor JWs are actually paying for their own loyalty to the organization - the more a person has invested in a relationship, the harder it is to leave.

  It matters less to the organization as to actual dollars that they get - and more that what is given is as much as the person can give.
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  OneEyedJoe

  they didn't mention that the sister walked 20 miles through the jungle and crossed a crocodile infested river to be at the meeting to donate?
  

  Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure something like that was worked in. Also, I'm sure there was a mention of the kingdom halls that they use, which are often either a hut with a leaky roof or just a canopy with no walls.
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  avaddohn94

  Well, I'm sure you probably still find those huts you mention in certain areas OneEyedJoe, but most kingdom halls used in Central America, even in the poorest regions are similar to this one: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/11863196.jpg

  Actually, Chiapas, which is probably the poorest state in Mexico has 3 or 4 assembly halls already (well-built and pretty functional depending on their region if I may say). You will also find nice kingdom halls built in rural areas in Belize, Costa Rica and so on.

  The thing is that whenever they get into a project of that nature, the Branch will make loans for plots of land and during the months or years that the construction takes place, the brothers are told: "keep the donations coming my friends, the need is even greater". Eventually, they get their kingdom hall and as we all know, they also get an unpayable debt which as per their new instructions is not a monthly lease but a contribution (woe betide them if they cease sending the money one month because they'll get a letter immediately demanding for reasons and, more importantly, the money).

  I've only posted 2 topics at jehovahs-witness.com. You may find the other one pretty interesting as well on these same matters.