Are they still around?
Which god fathered them?
Sons of God: Who are they?
by cameo-d 11 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Chalam
Hi,
I assume you means these ones?
Rather than these?
Matthew 5:9, Romans 8:14, Romans 8:19, Galatians 3:26
Galatians explains all about the New Testament "sons of God". Just make sure you become one, we are all invited, see below.
Galatians 3:26-29 (New International Version)
Sons of God
26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. As for the OT ones, they could be men or angels. I expect from the text that they are angels. There is some teaching about them and the return of the Nephilim in the latter days, see these verses. Luke 17:26 Matthew 24:37 Then consider thisGenesis 6:9 (New King James Version)
9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. This is mentioned right after the Nephilim offspring of the "sons of God" procreating with the "daughters of men" in verse 4. So why was Noah "perfect in his generations"? Why will it be as it was in the days of Noah when Jesus returns? Is it just the great wickedness of man or something else? All the best, Stephen -
Leolaia
In Canaanite myth, El fathered them with Asherah. There is an echo of this idea in Deuteronomy 32:8, where Elyon (cf. El-Elyon in the patriarchal narratives) apportioned the nations according to the number of the "sons of God", whereby Yahweh obtains Israel as his inheritance. The number of nations in biblical and post-biblical tradition was seventy, and perhaps not coincidentally, the number of sons of Asherah in Canaanite myth was seventy. In later Israelite religion, Yahweh and El merged together as a single deity and there is some evidence that Asherah was Yahweh's consort (eventually merging into Yahweh as well, becoming a feminine hypostasis or aspect of God, e.g. the Shekinah or presence of God). Eventually under monotheism, the "sons of God" were demoted as "angels" and were conceived as created by God rather than begotton of him in a procreative sense; the older theogony became cosmogony, a trend that occurred elsewhere in ANE religions.
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sspo
May i ask how old you are and how long you were a witness?
Thanks
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cameo-d
Chalam....are you saying that there are now 2 different sets of sons of god? Ancient sons of god and new sons of god? One set is angels and one set is mortals? Does this really make good sense to you?
Leolaia, Thank you for the researched answer. However, I have another question please.
"Eventually under monotheism, the "sons of God" were demoted as "angels" and were conceived as created by God rather than begotton of him in a procreative sense; "
Do you know of any current research of documents that show the word"angels" was mistranslated and that the meaning was that these "angels" who appeared to humans were actually the Sons of God? Anything to substantiate that "angels" is either interchangeable with Sons of God or that the word "angels" has always been a mistranslated word?
Thank you
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jaguarbass
Sons of God: Who are they? Annunaki Nephalim
Are they still around? The flood killed them.
Which god fathered them? Eniki
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IP_SEC
Atlan kings. Gilgamesh. The fathers of the Nephil. Anakim. All of the Jesuses.
Now congress persons and the like. Well they act like sons of god doing what they wilt.
I guess all those who do what they wilt.
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cameo-d
Did you see this video on "Sons of God"?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/171532/1/ONLY-begotton-Son-Or-were-there-others
I guess the reason this concerns me is because there is a future agenda of a group which will come forward claiming to be "Sons of God", and like the FDS, they will claim to speak on behalf of the Supreme Deity.
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Leolaia
cameo-d.....Angel is simply the transliteration of Greek aggelos "messenger, angel", which renders the Hebrew ml'k "messenger". In Canaanite texts, ml'k was used to refer to divine beings sent by the gods on missions in the human sphere; they are emissaries (usually sent in pairs) delivering messages from the gods to man. They are distinct from the "gods" or "sons of El"; the chaos monster Yamm, whom Baal defeats on Mount Cassius, is a "son of El" who has a ml'k companion. The "sons of El", meanwhile, are the gods who form El's divine council at his own abode. The same sense occurs in the OT, at least in the older parts; the divine assembly are divine "gods"/"sons of God" and the tuletary deities belonging to the nations are similarly "sons of God"; they are not referred to as ml'kym or any of the other classes of divine beings (e.g. the cherubim and seraphim). Those designated as m'lkym are generally divine envoys on a specific mission in the human sphere. It is in later texts, under the influence of monotheism, that ml'k becomes generalized as a term referring to any heavenly spirit and the "sons of God" cease to be gods in their own right (cf. Deutero-Isaiah's declaration that there is no other god than Yahweh). So in the OG LXX, translated starting in the third century BC, aggelos is used to render the term "son of God"; this reflects an interpretation of the text that sees all divine beings of heaven as "angels".
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Chalam
Hi cameo-d,
Yes the "sons of God" in the new testament are anyone who has "faith in Jesus Christ" as Galatians says.
If you put your faith in Jesus, He will forgive you your sins. Notice that Jesus call the man "son" as he forgive his sins.
Matthew 9:1-6 (New International Version)
Matthew 9
Jesus Heals a Paralytic
1 Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. 2 Some men brought to him a paralytic, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven."3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, "This fellow is blaspheming!"
4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, "Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'? 6 But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins...." Then he said to the paralytic, "Get up, take your mat and go home."
The Parable of The Lost Son explains a lot too.
See this!
21 "The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.'
22 "But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24 For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.
Same as Jesus said here Luke 15:7
Same deal here
Ephesians 1 (New International Version) In love 5 he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace 8 that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding.
Hope that makes sense?
All the best,
Stephen