Did NOAH take WHALES into the ARK? (page 3)

SacrificialLoon

Right. Like how the hell did all the marsupials end up in australia.

In the event of a global flood their pouches become a floatation device.

It's all in the apocryphal book of Didgeridoo.

Leolaia

Well life has supposed to have survived this earth being hit by an asteroid 65 million years ago and destroying all the dinosaurs. Also supposed to have been volcanic eruptions all over the world , which sorted other life out . I think life could survive a few days of rain.

If this were a natural, real-world disaster, I'd agree with you. But the Society compresses hundreds of millions of years of geological history in a single event. Thousands of feet of sedimentary rock from the Paleozoic to the Pleistocene (with fossils of creatures drowned in the Flood) were laid down catastrophically and the Flood carved out all the geomorphic features attributed by scientists to glaciation (see 22 September 1970 Awake!, pp. 8-12, 8 June 1975 Awake!, pp. 6-7, The Bible God's Word or Man's, 1989, p. 111-113). There were no tall mountains before the Flood so their uplift occurred through the action of floodwaters and similarly greatly deepened the ocean basins (Is the Bible Really the Word of God, 1969, pp. 36-39, The Bible God's Word or Man's, 1989, p. 113), so forces were just as destructive in the oceans as they were on land. In short, the Flood caused "a great shifting of the earth's crust" (Insight, Vol. 1, 1988, p. 610), breaking up the land masses under continental drift (see the 2007 talk by Ciro Aulicino on Youtube). This is far beyond the kind of catastrophe that a puny asteroid could wreak.

doofdaddy

As far as dolphins surviving in fresh water (well the Murray river isn't too fresh any more with salinity killing the fresh water fish!!). This is done in very irregular times and short periods e.g. when sick with parasites.

(And of course being an Aussie UB, you would know that the ocean water can travel hundreds of miles up the Murray in drought times).

Wasn't the flood covering the earth for 12 months? Impossible.

And the "canopy" being salt water? Physically and scientifically impossible to have that much salt in the atmosphere.

Can't wait to find a creationist to try this one on.

viva

Creationist arguements that Noah took only two of each "kind" on animals doesn't do anything for them. This would require evolution. Now some creationists accept evolution as gods way of creating species. Looking at DNA, you can show how far back each group of a "kind" had a similar ancestor, and for all but a very few species, this would have been long before the flood.

And the dimensions of the arc are quite clear. If you gave four able bodied men the tools and resources available in Noah's day, there is no way they could build a structure that could hold 1 percent of the species on earth, even if they only took the smallest ones.

It is interesting too that by biblical dating the flood occured c. 2300 BC, which would fall during the early bronze age. The average lifespan was much shorter than it is today. And somehow Noah lived to be over 600???? Oh well, surely the bible isn't wrong....

Also at that time people had migrated to North America and they didn't seem to be affected by the flood. There are myths in many (not all) cultures about the flood and they are quite easy to explain. At the end of the last ice age, ocean levels rose dramatically. Some civilizations existed in rich delta areas, similar to the Mississippi and Nile River deltas. When the ocean rose, these areas were flooded. Imagine if the oceans rose only 30 foot today. A lot of land would be flooded, but people would survive to tell about it. The location and timing of the "common" flood stories in no way matches the flood described in the bible.

It reminds me of the bumper sticker "Don't understand science? Try Religion." The account of the flood does not hold water, no matter how you interpret it.

donny

I believe the men who wrote these myths and stories never dreamed that mankind who advance to the state where they could be challenged. Just as Joseph Smith never envisioned a time where Egyptian hieroglyphics (a.k.a. reformed Egyptian) would be understood which showed the fallacy of his translation of the Book of Abraham and other Mormon writings. It will be harder and harder as time goes forth, for new religions to become major forces if they base their teachings on supposed supernatural events and unprovable assertions.

Satanus

Noah put leashes on them, and towed them safely along, behind the ark. One by seven, for the 'clean' whales. two by two for the 'unclean whales', dofins, seals, walrii, whatever.

S

Leolaia

Where is badboy? How could he miss out on a Noah thread?

Billy the Ex-Bethelite

African GB Member,

Uh, those weren't whales that Noah took on the ark. Those were Mrs. Noah and his three daughters-in-law...

truthsetsonefree

Badboy where are you???

whyizit

Wouldn't seem necessary to take whales on the ark, since there was plenty of water to go around. Larger animals could have been taken as babies. Did any of you see the replica of the Arc? Someone built it in Scotland or somewhere. I had an email showing pictures of it, but that's been a long time ago.

Did NOAH take WHALES into the ARK?

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