What are your opinions of Alex Jones and/or David Icke?

by easyreader1970 38 Replies latest jw friends

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  unclebruce

  I'm pretty much in agreement with warlock.

  Alex Jones is interesting and passionate and I doubt he's a 'Jesuit CIA plant.' I wouldn't take anything these guys say as gospel (and anyway, I don't think much of gospel) but what they have to say and the things they genuinely expose are good grist for freedom's mill.

  I wrote David Ike off as 80% nutcase about 20 years ago along with Australia's Stan Devo (sp) but I've recently reviewed his work more thoroughly and found a good deal of what he says to be accurate. I've met some astounding people like this in real life and all I can say is all power to them and whatever posesses them to shake complacency and 'reality' to the core. The world needs more freaks man.
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  cameo-d

  Alex Jones is sincere and passionate. He truly cares about the human race. He is giving all of his energy to fight evil and expose truth. I am concerned that he is close to burn out. I just don't see how he can continue to keep up the pace. I am sure he sacrifices taking good care of himself because he is always on the go, feeling that he has to get vital info out because we are getting down to the wire. I have a lot of respect for him and what he is doing. I think he takes a lot of risks to get the news out and I think he will eventually have to go underground. I often fear for his safety.

  David Icke may have sounded a bit far fetched at first...with the reptilian alien thing, but I do believe he is onto something. Perhaps he sensationalized a bit much, but he has some very spot on observations and conclusions.

  I think both of these guys are risk takers and humanitarians. I have a lot of admiration for both of them.
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  jaguarbass

  How people can swallow some of their junk is beyond me. The "Masters" created these slave forms (i.e. humans) but these would be unanimated bodies without souls....so lets infuse them with souls of criminals!....Yeah thats the ticket!...Brilliant lot they are. Thats what Alex Jones and his whole PrisonPlanet readers actually believe?!

  This kind of garbage makes those of us who're interested in ET life, and the possibilities of contact etc. ashamed to even hint at it, otherwise we're lumped in with them.

  Sasquatch, this is how I understand the Gods created us.

  They took their dna and combined it with our dna in a test tube or petri dish or whereever they

  do that sort of thing.

  They were very much like us. But weaker, to weak to do physical labor here on earth.

  We were very much like apes or neanderthals. Stronger and dumber than them.

  They used a chemical to burn out the parts of the dna they didnt want us to recieve

  such as smarts, and long or everlasting life.

  They then combined this altered dna ours with theirs and then implanted it in a fetus.

  And after thousands of years of tweaking homo sapien sapien appeared, thats us.

  To the Annunaki one of their years is 3,600 years, in part, because that is how long it takes them

  to circle our sun.

  If you look at human dna it has been tampered with.

  it is full of junk DNA and empty spaces where they chemicaly burned or spliced it.

  only 10 to 20% of our Dna is functional.

  If you look at the dna of a fruit fly it is 99% functional.

  That is an argument of the evidence that we have been tampered and altered.

  We could do these things today combine our genes with apes or other animals

  and create new beings.

  But the Gods still have controll and power here on earth.

  The Church does much of the work of the Gods from sanctioning war to stoping

  scientific advancement.

  The church and the Gods dont want us to find the keys to everlasting life and

  freedom.

  The keys would be found with cloning and stem cell research and stem cell experimentation.

  The Gods attempt to stop man from advancing was played out previously at the tower of babel

  and the flood.

  They made us to be their slaves, but evolution, genetic and intellectual leads us to where

  we are today.
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  jakes

  I have read David Icke's book entitled Children of the Matrix. In it he mentions Charles Taze Russell and the JWs.

  However, I think he has lost his marbles.

  jakes
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  cameo-d

  They used a chemical to burn out the parts of the dna they didnt want us to recieve

  such as smarts, and long or everlasting life.

  Jaguarbass,

  Will you fall for it when they tell you that the chip implant responds to frequencies that can "heal "your broken DNA strands? It sounds like you are falling for the set-up.
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  PrimateDave

  I don't know anything about David Icke, but if he is anything like Alex Jones, I won't waste any time on him.

  Alex Jones doesn't seem to have thought his position through very well. He is so caught up in exposing and preventing a supposed NWO that he apparently fails to realize some group is always at the top of the pecking order. If he somehow succeeded in removing the present Elite from power, just what would prevent yet another group, possibly more harmful than the first, from taking power?

  In fact this rotating leadership has been going on for a long time. I'm not talking about presidential politics or the political party system of the United States which are just subsets of the bigger picture. He should also read some history, preferably A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn. Then he could follow that up with some Noam Chomsky for some outstanding analysis of modern American foreign policy.

  Finally, Alex Jones needs to chill because no power structure is absolute. While Authorities may attempt greater measures of control, methods for bypassing control will proliferate. When it comes down to it, most of us really are anarchists. Making a big fuss about the government just makes one a target for its legal system.
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  jaguarbass

  I dont know that I'm falling for anything. I read a book every week and then I talk about it.

  I plan on living till I die and I've been dying since the day I have been born.

  The book I'm reading now says the new alignment of the planets that is coming

  with the new age in 2012 will alter and improve my dna.

  Do I believe that?

  I dont belive anything. I read books and talk about them

  That is one form of entertainment I engage in.

  I'm just hanging out sucking up Air conditioning.

  I dont feel I have a lot of choice or ability to change whats coming down the pipe.

  I dont plan on taking a chip implant.

  I plan on operating the concentration camps that will gas and exterminate

  those who dont take the implant.

  Then I plan on feeling sad and remorseful

  and changing my identity after the madness passes.

  And when caught years latter in Brazil, I will say I was just following orders.
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  cameo-d

  I dont plan on taking a chip implant.

  I plan on operating the concentration camps that will gas and exterminate

  those who dont take the implant.

  Then I plan on feeling sad and remorseful

  and changing my identity after the madness passes.

  You will have to get the chip to have the work.
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  Quotes

  I don't know about David Jones, but I am familiar with Icke.

  There are so very many problems to point out, but it is late so I will restrict myself to just one.

  Let's see.....

  ... *IF* even a small portion of what Icke says is true, then those evil reptillian overlords behind the great conspiracy would have "dissappeard" him years ago. After all, they can't have a good conspiracy with Icke blabbing it to everyone in book after book!

  The very fact that Icke is still alive indicates that either:

  (a) the reptilian overlords do not exist

  or

  (b) the reptilian overlords are less effective than Romania's Caucesu-controlled Securitate. (BTW, those Romanian Securitate, *THEY* knew how to "disappear" people that revealed government secrets and corruption. The Reptiles should study the Securitate, to learn how to keep whistle-blowers quiet!)

  ~Q
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  Midget-Sasquatch

  Hi Ninja,

  Sorry for the delay. I don't come to the board as often as I used to. Alex Jones has the one conspiracy site infowars.com. There's also a forum he has called Prison Planet. Here's a link to the supporting material you were asking for:

  http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=85174.0

  Hi Jaguarbass

  "Junk" DNA isn't unique to humans. You'll find varying amounts of it in many mammals for example. So that alone doesn't necessarily point to our having been worked on in a lab. Since you're very keen on genetics and chromosome structure, I really encourage you to read up on human chromosome number 2. It appears to be a fusion of two chromosomes into one. I think you'll find this and its implications and possible effect on our evolution very interesting. And its all verifiable.