PISTOFF- Interesting take. Apostate is definitely a " conditional " word depending on which vantage point it's coming from. It's actually of no use because both opposing factions will look at each other as apostates. So, very true no good discussions can occur , it's a stalemate between both parties who consider each other apostates. Not a good vantage point for positive discussions.
UNDERCOVER- Pretty funny , isn't it ? Yeah, the only way to ever learn anything is by being critical ! LOL! Imagine if we bought into the BS of the governing body till we died , we'd never learn a damned thing .
GROMITSK- Yep- I guarantee that passport application will get you shunned and considered an apostate with a one way ticket out of the organization ! I promise ! At least in theelders and GB's eyes ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper