Worldly Mannerisms That Dubs Avoids

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  • blondie
    blondie

    *** w52 4/15 pp. 254-255 Questions From Readers ***

    Is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?—G. S., Missouri.Some say hat-tipping started in the days of armored knights. In a book on customs we read: "In the presence of his superior officer the ordinary soldier would indicate his inferiority by removing his protecting helmet. Until the day that armor was laid aside forever no man dared appear helmeted before his king. Again habit became custom, and when equals met each knight removed his metal casque out of respect to the other." Another book on the subject indicates it started even before that time: "Some authorities suppose that this custom did not originate until the days of chivalry and knighthood during the Middle Ages, but there is evidence that it was common among the Greeks, Romans and certain other ancient peoples. At any rate, it is believed that later it became customary to remove the headgear to show deference to a superior or as a mark of respect to a person of distinction. It was only a step further to lift the headdress as an act of politeness or gallantry to ladies. After the introduction of men’s hats a few centuries ago, raising the hat or completely removing it became a general method of greeting women. The practice retains some of its earlier significance and many people still take off their hats to salute distinguished persons of either sex. Respect for the national flag is shown in the same manner."

    Incidentally, not only is patriotic significance given to this gesture as shown by its being done for the flag, but also religious significance is accorded to it in that Catholic men tip their hats when they pass the Catholic church. They do this as an act of worship toward the bread and wine that is inside the church and which according to their belief becomes the actual flesh and blood of Christ. So in doing this they believe they are paying homage to Jesus Christ, who they think is inside the church in the consecrated wafer.

    Man and woman were not created equal in power and glory; the man came first and was given special prerogatives. As Jehovah is the head over his wifely organization, and as Christ is the head over his espoused church, so the man is the head over the woman. It is the woman that is commanded to show respect and recognition of the man’s position of headship, and women who rebel at it are not so much rebelling against men as they are against God.—Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:2-10; Eph. 5:33.

    But in his world Satan has reversed matters. Starting in Eden, he has pushed the woman ahead of the man, exalted her above man and used her to bring about the downfall of men dedicated to Jehovah. He has flouted God by reversing the position of the sexes. But he is very subtle about it, camouflaging his work under the guise of harmless custom. Many customs are harmless, but when they contradict a theocratic principle Satan is behind it to discredit God. He is a past master at such deception. (2 Cor. 11:14) In this particular matter of hat-tipping he appeals to the vanity of women and the so-called gentlemanly qualities of men, and any man who does not comply with the subtle custom is considered crude and discourteous, disrespectful of womanhood. So out of a fear of what others may think the majority fall into conformity.—Prov. 29:25.

    To refrain from tipping the hat to a woman does not mean one disrespects her. Frequently it is the ones who are excessively courteous and gallant to women who show the least respect for womanhood. They use these flattering gestures and forms of outward courtesy hypocritically, as an opening wedge for improper advances that ultimately show disrespect and lead to misuse of women. It is not good to flatter people, to turn their head; it is to their harm. Specifically, why would a woman want this special show of respect from a man? One woman said in response to this question: "You don’t know how important it makes a woman feel to have a man tip his hat to her." That is sufficient reason for Christians to refrain from the custom. It is not in the interests of the individual to make him feel important, whether the individual is male or female.

    Some might argue that the friendly nod of the head came from the practice of bowing—but the nod is given regardless of sex, by both men and women. It does not exalt the woman. If hat-tipping were done by both men and women to each other, as mutual greeting and show of respect for each other, at least it would not be exalting one above the other. When a customary show of respect is performed between men as well as between man and woman, when it does not set the woman apart for special honor because of her sex, then it does not seem Scripturally objectionable. Hat removal would be too inconvenient for the woman? Then why is it the man that is supposed to rise when a woman enters a room or comes to or leaves the table, and never the woman? Is it too inconvenient again? Is she pinned to the chair, as the hat is pinned to her head? What custom does exist whereby women show respect to men? The absence of any is not just by chance, but is by satanic design to untheocratically elevate the woman above the man. In many ways Satan has taken the woman from the position assigned her by God, taken her from the home and its duties and put her into politics and commerce and religious leadership, and thereby caused much of the modern breakdown on the family front.—Heb. 13:4; Rev. 2:20.

    The surface courtesies that are flattering to human vanity are not what real Christian women want; instead they cherish the respect and love of one Christian toward another, and which are shown in weightier ways than the untheocratic customs of Satan’s lustful world. Both men and women should stay in the place God assigned them, in human relationships and divine worship. Only such as are content with these assigned places will live in the new world. Open or subtly disguised creature worship and exaltation will have no place there. It has no place with true Christians now.

  • QuestioningEverything
    QuestioningEverything

    Wearing loose/baggy clothing. Or anything modern or up to date for that matter. I allow my son's to wear their pants "saggin" and my mom was not very happy, said they looked worldly. I told her it wasn't any more worldly looking than how bell-bottoms were in the 70's. Just part of the fashion.

  • babel on
    babel on

    this is the typical much to do about nothing that the watchtower uses to exalt itself self rightously above others. rather than chivalry contributing to the breakdown of the home front, idiots like this have removed it and paved the way for the hip hop "bithces and ho's" crap that our women are subjected to today. Being from the south, and a self proclaimed southern gentleman, I want my son to Go to the Citadel an elite military academy that you guessed it, teaches to tip your hat and rise when a lady enters the room.

    Watchtower......go to Hell

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    There is new reasoning on the Glass clinking thing, apparently fragile glasses will break and fragments/shards of glass can get into your eyes.

    So use Libby glasses instead of Riedel and Jehovah won't get mad at you.

  • mrsjones5
    mrsjones5

    I've heard that some jws leave a tract at the table instead of a tip.

  • lurk3r
    lurk3r

    Thank you for that Blondie .

    Un freakin believable. A couple of lines that stood out to me: "You don’t know how important it makes a woman feel to have a man tip his hat to her." That is sufficient reason for Christians to refrain from the custom.

    : but is by satanic design to untheocratically elevate the woman above the man

    : any man who does not comply with the subtle custom is considered crude and discourteous, disrespectful of womanhood. So out of a fear of what others may think the majority fall into conformity.—Prov. 29:25. <----hahahah (bullllshit!)

    And the kicker here ---> : Both men and women should stay in the place God assigned them, in human relationships and divine worship. Only such as are content with these assigned places will live in the new world. Open or subtly disguised creature worship and exaltation will have no place there. It has no place with true Christians now.

    Talk about a power trip!!!

    OUT OF FEAR WHAT OTHER MAY THINK THE MAJORITY FALL INTO CONFORMITY!! <--------------The WTS LIVES by this and is the only thing that is holding them together.

    Disgusting.

    lurk3r

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    The use of the words bulletin board. It is the information board at the KHall. Has to do with Bel, the ancient false god, and his pronouncements.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    "There is new reasoning on the Glass clinking thing, apparently fragile glasses will break and fragments/shards of glass can get into your eyes"

    Good one, KW13!!!

    Does anyone know whether that goes along with the restriction they tried to pass - or did they actually pass it?? About not being allowed to be a JW if you were overweight???? I've been out for about 24 years and dang near ready to go back in just to find out whether some of this WTBTS sh*t is actually happening - as a 'mole', mind you...

    Blondie, you're an absolute wonder!! You know your WTBTS literature backwards and forwards - especially in finding the bizarre stuff with totally no biblical backup for their beliefs. Thanks for sharing your research!!

    SpeaKING of Bizarre STUff...

    BTW, does anyone here ever go over to e-jehovahs-witnesses dot com?? Some person named shikinah has posted (under "Egyptian Connections") some guff about Charles Taze Russell being right, after all, about his obsession with the Great Pyramid! Here's a little excerpt:

    "I have been trying to find out why Charles Taze Russell had a fascination with great pyramid, as this has become quite well known, and can be a stumbling block to many who wish to know the truth. But from what i can see he may have a legitimate reason for his beliefs as they seem to also be linked to the Hyksos Shephard Kings, who once ruled egypt for 400 years and from what i have read were the settlers of Jerusalem,..."

    He/she rambles on:

    "Above Russell clearly speaks about this knowledge becoming abundant in the time of the end and it has been kept secret. This conclusion of Prof. Smyth's as to the date of the Great Pyramid's building, was most abundantly corroborated, later, by certain measurements by which the Great Pyramid indicates its own date of construction. A realization of the fact that the Great Pyramid exhibits a wisdom of design which the Egyptians could not have possessed--a divine wisdom which must have been worked out under the supervision of some inspired servant of God--has led to the conjecture that Melchizedek was its builder..."

    The Egyptians who built the other great pyramid, as well as those that made the so-called 'bent' pyramid who initially developed the technique, sure would be surprised to hear about that... Not to mention Pharoah Ramses!!

    Then he/she finishes with:

    "Its all very deep and to say the great pyramid was gods word in stone is even stranger.. who was melchizedek and if he ordered the building of the pyramid where did he come from, without having any genealogy?
    May be Charles Taze Russell had some valid reason for his strange ideas and he doesnt seem to be the only one at his time"

    That website is proving to be more fun than I thought it would be when I first found it... RFLMAO!!! Zid

  • VM44
    VM44

    I wonder who the maniac was that wrote the answer to the 1952 "Question from the readers"?

    It reads like a comedy sketch. It starts off slowly and low key by refering to some unamed reference books, and then ends up raving about " the untheocratic customs of Satan’s lustful world"!

    Is it a joke? No, but obviously the work of an unbalanced mind.

  • SPAZnik
    SPAZnik

    Living now.

    They prefer to bury their talents (and their heads), sacrificing their young as they huddle around their almighty printing press waiting desperately for the god of said mechanical beast to spew forth further judgements and edicts.

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