Who is Lyndon Larouche?

by cynicus 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • You Know
    You Know
    You couldn't resist giving me a barb, rather than sticking with facts.

    Oh please. You deserve a good barbing. LOL I linked you to over a dozen sites. Yet you demand more facts. You had no answers for the issues they posed. You completely ignored most of what I presented. You have demonstrated that you have no conception of how the financial system even works. You haven't even acknowledged that there is a vast over hanging financial system that dwarfs the physical economy. From all appearances you are uneducable. / You Know

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Larouche is obviously as out of his mind as You Know. What a pair.

    Thanks for posting this, cynicus.

    AlanF

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    we are going to start a private room on this site. "Uno Vs Larc re Larouche".It will run forever.Christ. You are probably both the same person.

  • larc
    larc

    You Know,

    I asked for a particular kind of information which you have not provided. I am asking and I will ask once again for a primary research source. To give me a hundred summary articles does nothing. I am not interested in LaRouch's conclusions or yours. I am interested in the facts and combination of facts using statistical methods that lead to the conclusions. I have asked for this on several ocassions on several threads. I even showed a comparison to what I am used to reading vis a vie, research and what you are providing.

  • cynicus
    cynicus
    It seems that you, though, would rather just pretend to be a thinker, but instead seem only interested in poisioning others minds to new ideas rather than actually honestly consider what LaRouche puts forth about the system being on the verge of collapse. That's not using your brain. That's just stupidity.

    You can call me stupid as much as you want. You can call LaRouche's views on economy 'new ideas'. But in all the years that you've been consuming the intellectual secrete of mr. Larouche, you apparently never stumbled on a couple of names such as Willis Carto, Ernst Zundel, David McCalden (alias Lewis Brandon), or organisations such as the IHR, the KKK and the Liberty Lobby. Well it took me less than a day to get these topside in relation to L. Not trustworthy? Yeah sure...

    Well as it so happens these names *DO* raise a couple of red flags for me. All these are intimately related to the field of Holocaust-denial, white-supremacists, or just plain racism, some in its own specialized anti-Semitic form. Read Michael Shermer's "Why do people believe weird things" for an interesting treatise on Holocaust-denial an historical revisionism.

    Anyone related to that bunch is SUSPECT in my book. There's an old saying about smoke and fire which I adhere to. Does that disqualify me as a thinker? Perhaps, but I like to think of it as being pragmatic. Of course I should discern that someones ethnic sympathies not necesarily interfere with his economic views. Just as I shouldn't trust second-hand car salesmen in selling me a car (for that matter, I don't even trust new car salesmen), I'd be totally sane to let him invest my private savings into this stock trading business he does on the side. [8>]

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    I pretend to think, therefore I pretend to exist.

  • You Know
    You Know
    I am asking and I will ask once again for a primary research source.

    That's absurd. What difference would that make? You already have made the preposterous claim that you debunked LaRouche. Why now would you need "a primary research source." Do you think his figures might be wrong? LOL

    I am not interested in LaRouch's conclusions or yours.
    That's obvious.

    I am interested in the facts and combination of facts using statistical methods that lead to the conclusions.
    You might believe that in your own mind, I don't know, but you haven't really struck me as a person that is interested in knowing the truth about a matter. We don't even appear to be talking about the same subject. It appears to me that you want to save face at all costs. Hubris reigns supreme in aposto-land. But, if you want some stats, here, analyze this: http://www.prudentbear.com/credit.htm

    Tell me what these numbers mean. If nothing else you will provide me with a little more light hearted amusement with your antics. / You Know

  • You Know
    You Know

    Cynicus: I am familiar with Libery Lobby and of course everyone knows about the KKK. LaRouche is not associated with any of those right wingers. He's not rascist or Marxist either, and he certainly doesn't deny that the holocaust took place. Those are just blantant lies. If you can find something in his writings that supports any of that nonsense I will stop reading his stuff immediately. / You Know

  • cynicus
    cynicus

    Let's see how much smoke there is and let you decide about the fire. You'd better brush up your German though.

    "Während in den USA niemand auch nur die geringsten Illusionen über die Macht der zionistischen Lobby über vor allem die gegenwärtige Administration hegt, ist der Einfluß einer verdeckter operierenden zionistischen Lobby in der Bundesrepublik bisher nur wenigen eingeweihten politischen Persönlichkeiten bekannt, nicht aber der bretien Bevölkerung. Und deshalb müssen wir den scheinheiligen Holocaust-Schwindel zum Anlaß nehmen, um diese ausländischen Agenten auffliegen zu lassen."

    Helga Zepp-Larouche in der "Neuen Solidaritaet" 25.1.79.

    scheinheiligen Holocaust-Schwindel = hypocritic Holocaust-fraud

    The magazine CODE - Conföderation organisch denkender Europäer published by Ekkehard Franke-Griksch, son of an SS-Standartenführer Alfred Franke-Gricksch, through Diagnosen-Verlag, Leonberg, functioned as mouthpiece for Helga Zepp-Larouches "Bürgerrechtsbewegung Solidarität" (see: Handbuch deutscher Rechtsextremismus, by Jens Mecklenburg, page 224). CODE is a direct supporter of Zundel, Irving, Carto, IHR, Spotlight etc. (as documented by Deborah E. Lipstadt).

    From the following court sentence it becomes apparant that a certain Roy Frankhauser was employed by Lyndon Larouche during his presidential campaign of 1984:

    Frankhauser, who worked as a security consultant to the 1984 Lyndon LaRouche presidential campaign and related organizations, learned that a grand jury was investigating the organizations and several of their members for defrauding credit card holders by making unauthorized charges to their accounts, and that subpoenas had been served on depository banks for processed credit card slips.
    . http://www.law.emory.edu/1circuit/apr96/95-1560.01a.html

    Who is Roy Frankhauser? A 'two-time felon lately of the United Klans of America. Among Frankhauser's convictions was one involving explosives in connection with a school bus bombing in Pontiac, Mich.' Frankhause became active for LaRouche in 1975, according to Nazis, Communists, Klansmen and Others on the Fringe, by John George and Laird Wilcox, p. 285-290. It is an interesting clue that last year the 'White Aryan Resistance' issued a warning to its audience about Frankhauser. http://www.resist.com/updates/5.28.00aryanupdate.htm

    For now, I couldn't find "the Holocaust never happened" quotable directly from LaRouche himself. His wife did, and sources state that she in fact only has a representative function in the Larouche org, especially in Germany since she is native German. The above is ample indication for me that the allegations about racism, holocaust denial and being involved with the Klan have their foundation.

  • larc
    larc

    You Know,

    Your response to my request for further information seems disengenuous to me. You state you won't send it to me because it wouldn't make any difference. This assumes that I would not review and analyize LaRouch's research. I certainly would, if you would provide a source. At the same time, you have given a reference to a mutual fund manager who shows statisticesregarding economic issues. At this time, I am not interested in persuing this line of inquiry. Now, if one line of inquiry which I request is not worth providing to me, why would another line of inquiry be a valid one to provide, one that I had not requested? It seems to me, that if I could not be trusted to pursue information I had specificly requested, I would be less inclined to pursue information I am not interested in at this point in time. So you believe that I would analyze information of no interest to me, but not analyze information that I specificly request. I find your logic in this regard to be peculiar to say the least.

    Could it be the case, that will not provide the information I request because you can not find it?

  • You Know
    You Know

    Cynicus: I can see why you would want to put a bag over your head. Are you saying that LaRouche is a rasicist because some guy associated with him 16 years ago had supremiscist connections? Are you trying to plumb the depths of stupidity here or what? / You Know

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