Sunday Public talk that talked about oral sex (page 30)

oompa

lol mary and outlaw...i have not read this thread either....and am amazed at its length based on the subject line......but i guess oral sex really brings out the comments.......mine are usually just "OMG....oh FLUCK!!!".......oompa

Sad Michael

I'm sorry for ruffling feathers here. I seem to be quite good at it lately, as my wife has adopted apostate views ( you know what I mean) and seems to have found a new calling in trying to "free" all those who will listen. I don't. I get all the other side of the coin I can handle right here. If anyone wants to offer a suggestion as to how I might be able to deal with this (which I somehow doubt I'll find here) without more JW bashing, I'd like to hear it

I've read all the responses to my postings and and appreciate that at least someone is reading them. I really just wish someone would practice forgiving in the same way Jesus did; without concern for the wrong committed, but only with the highest degree of regard for how Jehovah ( just plain God to you who are offended a the use of his name, YHWH to others who consider themselves purists) sets the conditions for our forgiveness. Forgive and be forgiven -- end of story.

If I promise you something that I really believe will happen or that I can do, if it doesn't happen or I can't do it, does it make the intention of my promise wrong? If I tell you something that I really believe is true, and later find out it's not, would it be better to let you believe I thought all along it was true, or tell you when I found out? Would any one of you do any better at running a worldwide organization? I know there are some things I would change, but I also know I would be as unqualified in many areas as most here feel the GB are in most. We are really throwing the baby out with the bath water when we hold them to a higher standard. We make them out to be greater than us, when if fact they really are our servants, we just sometimes forget that they are.

It seems as though each of us has been in one way or another let down, lied to, cheated or even (I'll probably be sorry for opening this can of worms) abused by someone in the WTBS. OK, so don't feel like the lone ranger....... There is nothing to be gained when we hold on to the pain except more pain. Just let it go and forgive. How can any of us expect to be forgiven otherwise? How can any of us expect to be able to have a form of worship that is acceptable? How can any of us say we love God while hating our brother? Answer please.........?

OUTLAW

Sad Michael..Your post has nothing to do with the Topic of this thread...........You would do better to start your own thread,on the subject you wish to pursue............I think you would get the replys you are looking for..Give it a shot!................OUTLAW

Sad Michael

Thanks outlaw!! I just got into this and can't find my way out yet!! I think it has something to do with what we hear from the platform thoough......

Sad Michael

Thanks outlaw!! I just got into this and can't find my way out yet!! I think it has something to do with what we hear from the platform thoough......

Skip it

Is oral sex when you just talk about it?

Finally-Free

Maybe the watchtower should just redefine itself as a sex cult and stop pretending to be something else. It's more than obvious that's where their primary interests lie. Why else can't they shut up about it? I've worked with "worldly" people for most of my life and they aren't so preoccupied with sex. I never hear discussions about oral sex, anal sex, and masturbation when I'm with "worldly" people. For that kind of talk you need to go to a kingdom hall.

W

quietlyleaving

hi sad michael

I hope you don't mind me questioning some of the points you've made - my feathers aren't ruffled I promise

I'm sorry for ruffling feathers here. I seem to be quite good at it lately, as my wife has adopted apostate views ( you know what I mean) and seems to have found a new calling in trying to "free" all those who will listen. I don't. I get all the other side of the coin I can handle right here. If anyone wants to offer a suggestion as to how I might be able to deal with this (which I somehow doubt I'll find here) without more JW bashing, I'd like to hear it

I've read all the responses to my postings and and appreciate that at least someone is reading them. I really just wish someone would practice forgiving in the same way Jesus did; without concern for the wrong committed, but only with the highest degree of regard for how Jehovah ( just plain God to you who are offended a the use of his name, YHWH to others who consider themselves purists) sets the conditions for our forgiveness. Forgive and be forgiven -- end of story.

If I promise you something that I really believe will happen or that I can do, if it doesn't happen or I can't do it, does it make the intention of my promise wrong? If I tell you something that I really believe is true, and later find out it's not, would it be better to let you believe I thought all along it was true, or tell you when I found out? Would any one of you do any better at running a worldwide organization? I know there are some things I would change, but I also know I would be as unqualified in many areas as most here feel the GB are in most. We are really throwing the baby out with the bath water when we hold them to a higher standard. We make them out to be greater than us, when if fact they really are our servants, we just sometimes forget that they are.

It seems as though each of us has been in one way or another let down, lied to, cheated or even (I'll probably be sorry for opening this can of worms) abused by someone in the WTBS. OK, so don't feel like the lone ranger....... There is nothing to be gained when we hold on to the pain except more pain. Just let it go and forgive. How can any of us expect to be forgiven otherwise? How can any of us expect to be able to have a form of worship that is acceptable? How can any of us say we love God while hating our brother? Answer please.........?

why should Jehovah have good intentions attributed to him? Why can't an indivdual in his/her pain have good intentions attributed to him/her for holding onto their pain for example. How do you know that there is "nothing t be gained when we hold on to the pain except more pain". It may be that those who are suffering and in pain are drawing attention to what is unacceptable about Jehovahs purloining of the top position.

But it looks to me, from the title and content of this thread, that the FDS are punishing him good and proper (as if it wasn't enough that he's almost certainly suffering in the cold lonely spot we've given him)

quietlyleaving

Finallyfree

Maybe the watchtower should just redefine itself as a sex cult and stop pretending to be something else. It's more than obvious that's where their primary interests lie. Why else can't they shut up about it? I've worked with "worldly" people for most of my life and they aren't so preoccupied with sex. I never hear discussions about oral sex, anal sex, and masturbation when I'm with "worldly" people. For that kind of talk you need to go to a kingdom hall.

W

I agree and I think there is also an element of sadomasochism too

NewYork44M

I keep watching this thread and wondering when it is going to die. Evidently, no time soon.

Sunday Public talk that talked about oral sex

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