by BonaFide 27 Replies latest jw friends
I agree Undercover, about the "spiritual things first" attitude.
With my friends, we always would preach first, or go to a special talk first, or something JW related first, and then we would feel "good" spiritually, that we could now do something fun.
Now, seems like with the next generation, even that is changing.
BF
The last time I attended a jw wedding no one was talking about any of the jw crappola. everyone seemed to be enjoying the dance and music and everyone's company. Until...Until one of the groom's aunts from Texas started to talk about field service and the recently done dc. People started to leave the area. So she got up and started hugging folks and asking how they were, then off she would go again about her hubby being on the quick-build committee or field service stories. My wife told her to quit trying to bring her down off her high! LOL I about crapped myself laughing when the aunt stormed off with her ample posterior swinging this way and that way bumping people off to the side.....
What? No one did the booming "JEEEEEHOOOVA" so everyone in the restaurant would hear Jeeeeehoooova boom out in middle of the conversation?
No one, I mean no one, not the elders there, nor the pioneers, talked about anything "spiritual." Everything was about work, entertainment, personalities in the congregation, and music. That's it. No one said anything about the talk other than it was "good."
Hmmm......they sound like they're real weak in de Troof if you ask me. I'd suggest you apply 1 Corinithians 15:33 Brother BonaFide. After all, the road to apostasy is usually paved in a restaurant where nothing spiritual is mentioned.
I often found the same thing when I was a JW.
My wife and I would often invite other JWs to have a meal with us, these included most of the Elders.
Even the most "spiritual" ones never talked about anything "spiritual" . The times I tried to raise something from a magazine or meeting was usually met with a few "Yes nice, good" then move on to something else.
It was almost as if no one wanted to talk about being a JW and what they believed. Yet the WT would go on about when JWs met together to talk about "spiritual" things. But it seemed to be the last thing any of them wanted to do.
My wife and I could never stop talking about the bible and ideas we were having. Of course I suppose it was less than politic after the WT study to loudly declare in a half-jesting way that they (the GB) had it all wrong and here's why (as I showed the verses). Then I suggested that perhaps I should send them the WT with some corrections in red and asked what sort of reception I might get. (I, of course thought it amusing)....
The last JW gathering I went to was my Dad's funeral a couple of months ago. There were a few people slipping in scriptural advice. But for the occasion, I can see that.
Before that, the last JW gatherings I was at were in the late 80's. They didn't talk about spiritual things. My dad was an elder and used to give talks all over the southeastern end of the state. We got invited to lunch so many times. Very little of the talk was about spiritual things aside from the before-meal prayer. They'd talk about different JWs, work, the news, etc.
Service groups were different. A lot of times there would be spiritual talk. Which is more natural. They encounter people at the door and get back to the car group and discuss retorts they should have made. Or they discuss how to present magazines. The whole thing isn't social. But back at the coffee shop, not so much spiritual talk, unless somebody had some experience to share.
But avoiding spiritual talk doesn't seem new. I think a lot of JWs have thier spiritual life and they go to the Hall for that. And when they're in company, they talk about other things.
After all, what's there to talk about? It's the same stuff over and over again. You can't strike up a discussion with opposing viewpoints because everybody's supposed to have the same opinion. All you get is things like "What a great talk!" followed by "yes it was" all around or comments about the speaker's style. Oooh! Such inspiring conversation! Since you have to all express the same opinion of doctrine, what other spiritual things are there to talk about? Rehash the teachings? Nobody wants to hear the basics over and over. Cover the more obscure teachings? Aside from being boring conversation, that's dangerous too. What if you have it wrong? You don't want to admit that you were daydreaming and missed that point. Better not to rehash things either. Talk about safe things, the weather, the construction on the highway, work, vacations, etc.
lol damn if you do damned if you don't! I guess if they had sat there talking all about scriptures and the special talk you would have called them mind-controlled.
threads like this show me truly how biased anti-witnesses are if they can only put negative spin on everything Jw.
Look who`s here!..It`s "Hit and Run Reniaa!"..LOL!!....................JW`s would usually talk about some WBT$ subject back in the old days..Not so much now I see......................LOL!!...OUTLAW
I started a thread on this very subject about 18 months ago.
There were a lot of replies, with some very good theories as to why JW socials avoid talk about the "troof".
Are people afraid that they have missed something. Is there a nagging doubt that the noolite is no better than the Lite it replaced??
Some of the studies now offfer no more proof than words like "evidently" "apparently" and "logically" and the foggier the teaching and less clear they are on the subject the more they slip such words in.
They also offer quotes of earlier magazines to prove a point rather than arguing a convincing case. This must cause some kind of mental dissonance as OLd litterature is now viewed as suspicious - after all it is quoted all the time by APOSTATES to prove beyond doubt that the Witchtower Babble and Tra$h $osiety has been printing steaming piles of Life Giving Truth FOR DECADES.
I wonder what the current crop of Witchtower "Gofors" will be thinking decades from now as they lie dying hooked up to a life support machine?
HB
