Is it my imagination....

by watson 53 Replies latest social entertainment

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    Widowers tend to die from broken hearts and the shock of having to do housework and laundry.

    Bullshit on the housework part. I'll concede that women have no hearts to break.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    Widowers tend to die from broken hearts and the shock of having to do housework and laundry.

    I'd love to see the scientific data to back up this assertion.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Hey, cougars need love too.

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    Not sure what aspect you are questioning Keyser, but widowers often die very shortly after losing thier wives. Whereas women live much longer and have fuller lives.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze
    Not sure what aspect you are questioning Keyser, but widowers often die very shortly after losing thier wives. Whereas women live much longer and have fuller lives.

    The shock of having to do housework and laundry aspect. A pretty broad generalization about how no men do laundry or housework. I've been doing my own since I was about 12.

  • watson
    watson
    Widowers tend to die from broken hearts and the shock of having to do housework and laundry.

    I think you are pulling a "John Doe" her FNH....grinning. First part probably true.

    Anyway, back to cougars.....

    I believe that ED is directly related to, well, crap, I'd better watch it here.

  • beksbks
    beksbks

    Watson!! You better watch it alright!!!

    Keyser I might have made that generalization myself a few years ago, it was all I had ever experienced. I would never make that mistake now.

  • aSphereisnotaCircle
    aSphereisnotaCircle

    I'm not offended by the terms MILF, couger, chicks or Broads.

    Never cared For the term "split Tail" though.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    I love it when leg pulling works so gloriously well. Widowers do die in higher numbers and widows live longer. Single women live longer than married ones. The housework and laundry was a joke. I'm surprised you guys didn't catch that. I once kidded an elder that the Final Test was going to be that God will tell men that they now have to do all the dishes. He laughed but he understood the implication there, that the WTBTS had raised a bunch of helpless boys.

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    For Keys and JD and other doubters:

    one of many studies.

    http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/31/us/married-people-and-widows-found-to-outlive-widowers.html?sec=health&&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/G/Greenberg,%20Joel

    MARRIED PEOPLE AND WIDOWS FOUND TO OUTLIVE WIDOWERS

    • By JOEL GREENBERG, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES
    Published: July 31, 1981

    Illustrations: Graph indicating survival of widowed and married men

    Men, but not women, are much more likely to die within several years after the death of a spouse than are people who are still married, according to a study by Johns Hopkins University researchers. But remarriage appears to increase the widowed man's chances of living longer, the study says.

    A husband's death has almost no effect on the mortality rate of women, according to the 12-year survey of more than 4,000 widowed persons, aged 18 and up.

    Although it has long been believed that the death of a spouse leads to psychological distress that might contribute to earlier death and to illness, this study was unusual in that it dramatically pointed up for the first time, according to the researchers, that the impact appears to be more devastating to men.

    Covered a Longer Period

    The study, which the researchers said followed its subjects for a longer period of time than any other of its kind, was conducted by scientists at the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health.

    ''My guess is that missing a spouse affects a man's quality of life in so many, many ways,'' said Moyses Szklo, one of the scientists, ''that even if he joins a club or some other social activity something is always going to be missing -someone to pay attention to him, to go out with him.'' In addition to the emotional impact, the researcher said, men who no longer have their wives to look after them are less likely to get medical care when it is needed.

    Why were women less affected by the loss than men? The researchers speculated that constitutional differences in women might make them better able to rebound from their loss. They also suggested that personality characteristics might play a role. ''Women simply may be more adaptable,'' said Dr. Knut J. Helsing, the principal investigator. ''They may have more of a sense of survivability.''

    The study also cast some doubt on the belief among social scientists that loss of a spouse - when it does lead to the death of the other - is followed quickly by that death.

    A well-known scale of life stresses devised by T.H. Holmes and R.H. Rahe pinpoints the loss of a spouse as among the most difficult of psychological blows from which to recover. From this, and from the results of several earlier surveys done by others, Dr. Helsing said he expected to find an almost immediate impact on the surviving partner's death rate.

    But very little difference in death rates was found between persons who had lost a husband or wife in the past year and married persons of the same age, sex and background.

    In the ensuing years, however, the survey found that widowed men as a group had a 28 percent greater mortality rate than their married counterparts. Moreover, widowed men between the ages of 55 and 65, who represented more than one-fourth of the people in the study, had a mortality rate 60 percent higher than that of married men of the same age.

    Despite the difference in death rates, widowed men and married men generally died of the same causes, such as heart disease, cancer and other ailments, according to the researchers. Since the causes of death were the same for both groups, they said, they did not pursue such possible reasons for the difference as poorer nutrition for men who no longer have wives to shop and cook for them. Such a factor, they believe, would have been reflected in different causes of death. A Long-Term Problem

    Dr. Szklo noted that the effect of the wife's death on a man appeared to reflect ''a chronic, long-term problem of being alone, rather than an immediate response to the death itself.''

    The study was conducted from 1963 to 1975 in Washington County, Md. The findings were reported at a news conference at Johns Hopkins today and in the August issue of American Journal of Public Health.

    The findings on longevity among men who remarried were especially striking, the researchers said, because for most age ranges remarried widowers actually had mortality rates lower than those in the married control group.

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