It takes a real Witness to bitch slap AlanF....

by SixofNine 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    ...into submission.

    Here's one now, posting in the psuedoscience forum on WOL:

    I thought I would post a review of a certain book I know of called "Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood" which is just now available from some of the on line book sellers. I think some here will find this interesting.- [This book really does solve the mystery of the flood. It is basically a geology book that proves the earth has had a recent earth wide flood as described in the Bible. This book has all the answers, it explains in detail exactly how the flood happened. There have been many Scientific Creationist books over the years that have tried to prove the flood, but they have all failed because they ignore basic scientific facts and twist everything in a vain attempt to support their impossible theories and end up only deluding themselves. The science in this book on the other hand is very good, in fact the first few chapters show the errors in currently used flood theories and why they don't work. The author disproves the young earth theory, the everything was laid down at the flood theory, etc. He then goes on to show that the earth has indeed recently had a major ice age and that it was the sudden collapse of the ice sheets surging into the oceans that flooded the world. (The 40 days of rain was caused by one or more comet impacts which triggered the collapse of the ice sheets and blasted water and/or ice into near earth orbits that fell back to earth all over the globe.) He ties this in with evidence from all over the world that points towards this happening. Evidence that the scientific creationists have completely missed since they don't even accept that the earth has had an ice age. Since this is a geology book and the author of course accepts the fossil record as factual, he is able to tie in the Pleistocene extinction and a lot of other supporting geological evidence with the flood. The creationists can't make these connections since they believe the fossil record was all created at once by the flood. The author also makes the interesting point that Neanderthal man could have been the Nephilim mentioned in the bible before the flood. He also presents some intriguing ideas on why the flood may have been necessary. In chapter 8 called The Theory the author puts all the pieces together and runs it like a movie explaining step by step how the flood occurred. Each step is supported in the chapter by quotes from geology books with evidence from around the world showing that these events actually happened. The evidence presented is so solid and the chain of events so logical, that when reading this chapter you feel like you are watching the flood as it happened. The next chapter looks at could the animals have fit on the ark. Some new ideas here as well that solve a lot of problems that other books have fallen flat on their faces tripping over. Looks at the global distribution of animals before and after the flood, and what was and what was not on the ark. The next chapter on Man and the Flood has very convincing evidence on population growth, migration of people, cultures and languages all pointing towards the flood. The chapter on Looking at the Numbers is really more for the geologists than the average reader, has a lot of deep geology about how the flood affected the earth. A new geology theory is presented called Ice Age Flexing that reveals how the deluge and the comings and goings of the earlier ice ages has affected the earth.. Explanations also include, if the flood waters drained into the deepening oceans, how is it then that the oceans have islands today? Worth reading if you can plow through it, answers all the questions that till now no one was able to answer. The chapter right after it is a cake walk, called Noah's Tale, a fictionalized reenactment of what the flood may have been like for Noah and his family and how he may have built the ark. Has some interesting ideas on how it may have been done. Shows that although it was a lot of work, Noah didn't have to do anything that was impossible. The following chapter called The Smoking Gun is the key part of the book where the author presents photographs of finding microscopic marine diatoms in Midwestern soil samples. These diatoms are traces left by the flood all over the world. The author even explains step by step how to find these diatoms so the reader can duplicate the results and prove the flood for his or herself. The author then has a concluding chapter looking at the debate between science and religion. Then there is another extra chapter at the end called the Author's Soapbox, and it is just that. Basically the author shows that you can prove or disprove various doctrinal interpretations by reading the Bible with a logical viewpoint.
    After reading this book you will probably want to take Morris's book the "Genesis Flood" and throw it into the trash can. (if you haven't already) This book completely destroys creationism's flood theories by replacing them with one that actually works and can be verified scientifically. This book will very possibly mark a major turning point in how we look at Noah's flood. Proving the biblical flood could be the biggest change in the world of science since Einstein. The waves this book will make in the scientific world and the creationist world will be fun to watch. It is also interesting to note that all of the major world religions in recent history have come to accept the deluge as just a local flood in the area where Noah lived. If these religions all suddenly begin once again supporting a global interpretation of the biblical flood, it will be because of this book. In this one book are more answers about how the flood happened than in all the other books on the flood combined.]With a geology book proving that the flood really happened after all, it is nice that Jehovah's people have never stopped believing in a global flood as stated in Genesis. Other religions who have dropped belief in the deluge may now find themselves having to do a sudden U-turn. Having to take such a turn would highlight their lack of faith in the truthfulness and power of God's word.

    . http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000059

    Ps. isn't paragraph usage next to Godliness, or was that something else?

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Six,

    lol - There is nothing quite like the sound of an author pushing the glories of his own books.

    The breathy sound of desperation projected by the wad of unpaid bills in his back pocket.

    Its a bit like a pre-pub CD that came my way once that had an accompanying letter which said among many other things, 'XXXX new release will change the face of English Folk music. He uses a 12 string guitar in this CD!'.

    Best regards - HS

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    Plenty of "geology" books have been written over the years purporting to prove the reality of The Flood. Every one has turned out to the work of a crackpot. I have about a dozen of these in my library. Thanks for the tip, Six. I'll add this to my collection.

    AlanF

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I actually wonder if the guy is for real, or someone trying to subtly introduce some cognitive dissonance into the lives of some WOL readers.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    'XXXX new release will change the face of English Folk music. He uses a 12 string guitar in this CD!'.

    lol, Hillary, the poor schmo just didn't get it did he? Nigel Tuffnel, now he understood, what with that amp that went up to eleven. Your man needed a 13 string guitar if he was going to change the face of English music.

  • Mr Ben
    Mr Ben

    Six,

    I like the line at the end, don't you?

    "Having to take such a turn would highlight their lack of faith in the truthfulness and power of God's word."

    Unlike WT followers, right! Hey, hey!

    Religion n.
    An organisation designed to promote atheism.

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    "... the key part of the book where the author presents photographs of finding microscopic marine diatoms in Midwestern soil samples"

    Hold the press! It rains in the Midwest!

    People living in glass paradigms shouldn't throw stones...

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    This guy is an idiot.

    I really think us "real" Geoscientists have done a piss poor job in explaining our field and what we have discovered.

    One of these days when I actually get some time I will share what I have with you Alan.

    I remember "Amasing" (who BTW I think is probably one of the best posters on this board) brought out an excellent discussion on carbon dating and other elements used by us geoscientists when it comes to dating. I should have posted some of my stuff especially for some of the more stranger responses to Amasings information but I just didn't have the time.

    If I ever get a free second I will see what I can bring out.

    hawk

  • teejay
    teejay

    Is it me, Six, or is that one helluva long paragraph?

  • Rex B13
    Rex B13

    Actually Alan, you are as much a 'crackpot' as any of those you accuse. In the usual mode of intellectual INTOLERANCE, you seek to insinuate that only your world view is valid. Liberal elitists constantly use this tactic in every arena, be it academic, religious or political.
    You have based your belief system on the shaky foundations of theories unprovable but imminently popular with those of your ilk: the anti-God agnostics and atheists.

    >Plenty of "geology" books have been written over the years purporting to prove the reality of The Flood. Every one has turned out to the work of a crackpot. I have about a dozen of these in my library. Thanks for the tip, Six. I'll add this to my collection.

    "Look at me! My name is Alan F. and I have disproven all of the Bible to myself and others. I am superior to all who disagree with my opinion". That's how I see you.
    Rex

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