This is not a spoof: New Light Suggestion for the Governing Body

by journey-on 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • journey-on
    journey-on

    (Bookmark this 'cause if the GB uses it, #1 We will know they watch this site; #2 You heard it here first... LOL!)

    Their dilemma: As we know, the GB is between a rock and a hard place right now. Other than family members being baptized, very few new ones are signing on to the JWs. But, for some inexplicable reason, partakers at the Memorial are on the increase!

    There are 7 million witnesses. How many households does this number represent? Probably around 2.5 million...maybe 3 mil.

    (Stay with me here)

    Out of this 2 - 3 mil., how many are generationally and family-related in some way? Probably around 144,000.

    (Stick with me here)

    Re-reading the scriptures that apply to the 144,000, I found that it does not say 144,000 individuals. It just says, "I heard the number of those who were sealed, a hundred and forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the sons of Israel." Then it goes on to say 12,000 out of each tribe, and it names the tribes.

    There are Hebrew scriptures that can be used to support the tribal and family genealogical uses as well as ones that explain the great crowd of non-Israelites that went with them out of Egypt. The term "Chieftains" was used in the book of Numbers to describe the "heads of the house of their fathers".

    (Bear with me....Here it is)

    New Light Suggestion for the GB:

    The number sealed are not individuals, but households/families from each spiritual tribe (12,000 households or families from each)!

    This way, the numbers could go on to infinity because 144,000 applies to families or households, NOT individuals.

    This would take the stigma off those wishing to partake of the emblems now. Those who don't want to and those newbies that do come in, are, of course, The Great Crowd left over who will be here on earth.

    (I have some other applicable scriptures that can be used, but what do you think so far? Do you see any holes in my New Light?)

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  • ninja
    ninja

    don't give them ideas ffs....he he

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  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Thanks, ninja. I just thought they could use a little help with how to untwist the knot they are in. ...

    But, seriously, if I were a GB member right now (or whoever comes up with their ideas) I would look into this view. It could be tied in with so many other scriptures (both Hebrew and Greek) that could fit the puzzle perfectly....well, as perfect as any of their other doctrines. I'm just trying to help the ole boys out!

    what is ffs?

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  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Come on somebody....Punch holes in this for me! How can there be 75+ views and nobody have a thought about this?

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  • Vinny
    Vinny

    I just wasted about one minute.

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  • passwordprotected
    passwordprotected

    I actually quite like this. May I use it for when I start my own religion?

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  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Wow. Sorry you wasted your time, Vinny. I had a dozen or so scriptures that would tie this theory together into a viable doctrine, but I guess it's not as interesting or debatable as I thought it would be. Thanks for being so blunt about it.

    passwordprotected: you may...

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  • Heaven
    Heaven

    journey-on ... ffs -- "for f*ck sake" ( at least, that's what I figure). Anyone else?

    After all I have read over the last year or so, nothing surprises me anymore with the GB these clowns. I just say 'Speak to the Hand'. WFE! (What-Freaking-Ever!)

    "Time is their Enemy" -- Rick Fearon

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  • Hobo Ken
    Hobo Ken

    Can't see much wrong with the plausibility of your "new light" doctrine but why do they need to explain it in such terms?

    Surely the simplest way to re-terpret it would be to say that since the numbers are going up it must be a figurative number, as the twelve tribes they are derived from are also figurative. This would mean it's still a numerable amount but not as many as your theory would allow for.

    I don't believe they would want a massive proportion of the 7 million to start claiming they are anointed , thyus encouraging others to do likewise.

    I mean they want to encourage people to live in the paradise, that is their hook. That's why JWs are so different from Christendom who believe they are all going ot heaven. Why would they modify a doctrine which could eventually lead to people wondering what difference it would make becoming a Dub?

    I think a few tweaks here and there and if pushed say it's still limited but not literal and 144,000 indicates a small group.

    H.K.

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  • journey-on
    journey-on

    Hobo Ken, thanks for your input.

    The reason I think changing the doctrine from a literal number to a figurative one would not work is because this would cause too many to realize how bogus everything was to begin with.

    Connecting the number 144,000 to family lines would encourage family members to draw "closer to Jehovah" and make them feel special and chosen. 144,000 = 12,000 family trees from 12 different "tribes", thus an unlimited number of people, generation after generation. They wouldn't have to verify anything unless they began keeping records like the Mormons do.

    The Mormons are big on genealogy, and if the witnesses began keeping similar records, it could be calculated mathematically.

    It would discourage young people from leaving the org, and if the Watchtower can weave the web of scriptural connectedness, the rank and file would accept this new light without question as food at the proper time.

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