Without pain could any God exist?

by The Berean 6 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • The Berean
    The Berean

    If our world was a paradise with no sickness, pain, or death, would anyone have ever considered the concept of a Supreme Being? Who would care how we got here? Would not eternity be taken for granted?

    Could it be that in order for any God to get attention ... he/she/it must create sin, fear, and sorrow ... making human choice to do good or bad only an illusion?

    Hmmm ...

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Gods are part of human culture (along with representation, language, writing, symbols, art); human culture in turn depends on a particular biological, zoological condition (including senses, urges, fear and other emotions, the feeling of pain and pleasure, the experience of sex, birth and death) to which it is a particular response. So without pain (among many other things) "God(s)" who certainly not exist as we picture them; but neither would we (as we picture ourselves).

  • bluecanary
    bluecanary

    I'll go you one further. Without a universe could God exist? How could he have a concept of himself without the existence of anything else? "God is good." Compared to what? "God is love." In contrast to what? What could he possibly think about if nothing else existed and how could he even think of himself if there was nothing to distinguish his "self" from?

  • truthsetsonefree
    truthsetsonefree

    Excellent points.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    Gods are part of human culture (along with representation, language, writing, symbols, art); human culture in turn depends on a particular biological, zoological condition (including senses, urges, fear and other emotions, the feeling of pain and pleasure, the experience of sex, birth and death) to which it is a particular response. So without pain (among many other things) "God(s)" who certainly not exist as we picture them; but neither would we (as we picture ourselves).

    If a bear shits in the woods and no one is there to smell it, does it stink? BTS

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    What could he possibly think about if nothing else existed and how could he even think of himself if there was nothing to distinguish his "self" from?

    The Trinity idea tends to address this. Three Persons had a relationship of perfect love with each other in Eternity. These three are God. God was never alone.

    BTS

  • John Doe
    John Doe
    If a bear shits in the woods and no one is there to smell it, does it stink?
    BTS

    If burns is talking in the woods with no one to hear him, is he lying?

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